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Discussed several times over, a good while back.
And, you're way off base.
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burner, you're a week late, dude.
that horse was beat, killed and buried.
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Read it.
They are planning to protest the funeral of 7 children at a dairy farm in PA who were killed in a fire a few days ago.
This isn't about Snyder.
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Read it.
You're still off-base, by a LONG shot.
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How so?
We've empowered them with that ruling.
Explain to me.
I don't think the veterans in my family fought to support that.
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it falls under free speech......if you want freedom take the bad with the good.....honestly think it aint gonna take but one or two severe beatings to curtail their activities by a whole lot and get through their heads that with rights come responsibilities......
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The Freedom of Speech, isn't about protecting speech you LIKE and agree with; it's about protecting speech that you don't like or agree with.
And, the veterans in your family that actually understand the Constitution, DID fight to protect your right to say what you think and believe, regardless of whether what you say is right, accepted, or agreed with by anyone else.
There's nothing preventing folks who DISAGREE with the Westboro nutjobs from going to the funeral and voicing THEIR faith and belief for the family.
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So I can walk down the street now screaming racial obscenities at black people? Long as I'm in a public place?
Or maybe I can stand outside a synagogue with a sign that says "Oven Dodgers?"
Snyder's lawyers f***ed up by not making this about hate speech. He should have used the liberal tactics to his advantage.
Imagine how this would have turned out if Snyder was black? I picture an entirely different verdict.
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am I missing something? this is like deja vu, all over again.
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I don't think the veterans in my family fought to support that.
I disagree. Our veterans fought for the right of every American to be able to speak their mind without fear of persecution.
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So you agree with hate speech?
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So I can walk down the street now screaming racial obscenities at black people? Long as I'm in a public place?
Or maybe I can stand outside a synagogue with a sign that says "Oven Dodgers?"
Snyder's lawyers f***ed up by not making this about hate speech. He should have used the liberal tactics to his advantage.
Imagine how this would have turned out if Snyder was black? I picture an entirely different verdict. "hate speech" is [bleep] up and a chitty ruling.....should follow freedom of speech aswell.....if your stupid enough to do it on the southside of Chicago, be prepared to take a beating over your beliefs....
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am I missing something? this is like deja vu, all over again. Reading comprehension, and staying up on current events.
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Burner....roll through this thread and then offer up your thoughts. Try to separate the rational from the emotional. Don't feel bad....many had to.... and did. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...preme_Court_upholds_doucheba#Post4999443
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So I can walk down the street now screaming racial obscenities at black people? Long as I'm in a public place?
Or maybe I can stand outside a synagogue with a sign that says "Oven Dodgers?"
Snyder's lawyers f***ed up by not making this about hate speech. He should have used the liberal tactics to his advantage.
Imagine how this would have turned out if Snyder was black? I picture an entirely different verdict. "hate speech" is [bleep] up and a chitty ruling.....should follow freedom of speech aswell.....if your stupid enough to do it on the southside of Chicago, be prepared to take a beating over your beliefs.... Not saying I would do it - just pointing out the double standard in our government's policies. This is a disturbing precedent that's not entirely unexpected because it again shows that our gov.org believes that the rights of the many outweigh the rights of the few. Specifically, the rights of people to harrass and otherwise torment private individuals for their own agenda, vs. the right of a family to grieve in peace and "pursue happiness." Funny how liberal this place gets over some things, and not others.
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Have read that thread, still disagree. In America, we have the right to disagree.
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This is a disturbing precedent =============
For over 200 years years it has been,then.
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails. William Arthur Ward
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