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Jack O'Connor started that .270 with a 6X for western hunting thing. And a 3X for eastern hunting. Good for it's day. But that day is gone.
Variables are light years ahead of his day. If you don't glass your rifle with a quality 3X9 you are going to be stuck in a 40 year old past.
O Tell you what, put a M8 6x42 and a 3x9x40 on the classifieds and see which one sells in 2 minutes.
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Novelty sells well but common sense isn't common.
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Still trying to understand the need for (or desire for)fixed power scopes in the 21st century. Really??? Damn I have several on several rifles and have never felt handicapped, even when hunting antelope. The chosen round yes, but not the scope power.
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Wheather or not you "felt" handicapped is immaterial. Still, some folks are stuck in the 1960s.
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You're right. It was a stunt. In fact, everything we do is. I may even shoot some caribou in the next couple of days with a Remington. I rest my case.
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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"Trying to understand...."
Not many people have the courage to admit that they have a hard time trying.
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Wheather or not you "felt" handicapped is immaterial. Still, some folks are stuck in the 1960s. So? Some are stuck on the single digits: '03.....'06. But it works fine.....as long as you've got at least the best........in the world.......... ......Ruger M77. Oh, ooPs again! Still, not bad for an inaccurate rifle.......399 yards. Being stuck in the '60s, or even a century ago, isn't all that bad I guess. (Oh, lest I forget, 4X fixed too. )
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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Don't you know Swampy?...variable scopes fall apart and/or leak right out of the box! Bwahahahaa
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I also have to call BS on the people who claim that a 6x (or even a 4x) results in "a scope full of hair" on deer at close range.
I just broke my own record for closest running shot with a 6x, killing a big Texas pig at 10 yards with a 2.5-10x set on 6x. Though I couldn't see the whole boar, I could see airspace above and below his shoulders--and put the bullet right in the middle of his shoulders.
This isn't surprising, since the field of view of a modern 6x is at least 18 feet at 100 yards, which means almost 2 feet at 10 yards. Beats mine John, closest for me was 13 yards with a M8 6x42. He is hanging on the wall so I guess it worked out.
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Don't you know Swampy?...variable scopes fall apart and/or leak right out of the box! Bwahahahaa Right along side Remington bolt handles falling off.....Laffin'
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Dude, you are screwed...it can't work: 1) not shooting VLDs 2) 4-14 scope with turrets or other range compensation do dads 3) "tactical" style stock 4) tested to 1k yards And please upgrade to a 7mag. '06 an .270's are yesterdays news, they don't work any longer. I read that on the internet, it has to be true.... Here, this will make you feel better : Pre-64 Model 70 in '06 (turn of the century technology), Leupi VXI 3x9x50, set at 6x during the shots, shooting 150grain Speer Grand Slam Shot on the dead run at about 100 yeards at our hunt club. I am pretty sure the bullets bounced off of the bear, and he met his demise by running into a tree, breaking his neck. Either that, or one of my shots took a tree down and he ran into it (not quite sure...) Works for me. Tony
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I currently have quick release rings on all my guns, and a backpack full of scopes. I carry a fixed 3x, 4x, 5x, 6x, 7x, 8x and 9x scope with me at all times. Then I can just reach into my backpack and switch powers if needed. I just don't trust variables.
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I currently have quick release rings on all my guns, and a backpack full of scopes. I carry a fixed 3x, 4x, 5x, 6x, 7x, 8x and 9x scope with me at all times. Then I can just reach into my backpack and switch powers if needed. I just don't trust variables.
......................Never once in over 45 years have I had an issue with any variable scope I`ve ever owned. But if you like carrying 7 scopes in your backpack for an eventuality that will likely not occur, then go for it. One or two back-up scopes maybe, but 7 of `em? Hope you don`t ever trip or happen to fall and land on your backpack in just the right way as to break "some" of those backup scopes. To each his own I suppose!
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I currently have quick release rings on all my guns, and a backpack full of scopes. I carry a fixed 3x, 4x, 5x, 6x, 7x, 8x and 9x scope with me at all times. Then I can just reach into my backpack and switch powers if needed. I just don't trust variables.
......................Never once in over 45 years have I had an issue with any variable scope I`ve ever owned. But if you like carrying 7 scopes in your backpack for an eventuality that will likely not occur, then go for it. One or two back-up scopes maybe, but 7 of `em? Hope you don`t ever trip or happen to fall and land on your backpack in just the right way as to break "some" of those backup scopes. To each his own I suppose!
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I currently have quick release rings on all my guns, and a backpack full of scopes. I carry a fixed 3x, 4x, 5x, 6x, 7x, 8x and 9x scope with me at all times. Then I can just reach into my backpack and switch powers if needed. I just don't trust variables.
......................Never once in over 45 years have I had an issue with any variable scope I`ve ever owned. But if you like carrying 7 scopes in your backpack for an eventuality that will likely not occur, then go for it. One or two back-up scopes maybe, but 7 of `em? Hope you don`t ever trip or happen to fall and land on your backpack in just the right way as to break "some" of those backup scopes. To each his own I suppose! Oh man.
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Right along side Remington bolt handles falling off.....Laffin' Almost as funny as guys who shoot so much, they wear out variables. Wonder how many barrels get burned out per variable scope going titts up............funny stuff.
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