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The MSR pumps are fine for the yuppie backpacker crowd. Too funny... that crowd, both climbers and backpackers, log 10's of thousand's more miles both vertical and horizontal than the hunting fraternity will ever dream of. Carry on with your fantasy...
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The MSR pumps are fine for the yuppie backpacker crowd. Too funny... that crowd, both climbers and backpackers, log 10's of thousand's more miles both vertical and horizontal than the hunting fraternity will ever dream of. Carry on with your fantasy... Must've struck a nerve there, sorry Bradley! Too funny.... MtnHtr
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Must've struck a nerve there, sorry Bradley! Too funny....
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No nerve struck Stacy. However, your ignorance is on display for ALL to see and THAT is funny...
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I read somewhere a couple of years ago (BPL?) that the old SVEA's were becoming quite scarce 'cause climbers, who'd be MSR'ed once to often, were scarfing them up.
North country canoeist Cliff Jacobsen is a noted adventurer, having many dozens of multi-week canoe trips in Canada. He used to rely on the old Optimus box stove. He now uses the Optimus Nova, he's tried them all.
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Aside from the better support of the various MSR's and lighter weight, I prefer the old SVEA on nearly every other count.
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On the SVEA 123 angle, is there any way to retro a new one with the "problem" to the old style?
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On the SVEA 123 angle, is there any way to retro a new one with the "problem" to the old style? Nope.
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How big of a "problem" is the "problem"?
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BTW - Brad, the sig line rocks...
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VA, as I recall it's mostly related to slightly slower boil times than the non self-cleaning version that Take-a-knee and I both have.
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BTW - Brad, the sig line rocks... Thanks
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That, um, doesn't sound like that much of a "problem", IMHO.
But, I'm asking to learn.
If I got the "guts" to a SVEA 123, old style, would it mate to the wind screen, body, tank, etc., of a new one?
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I guess I'll have to get a real pretty dress too!!! ( slut ) I went thru 123 svea, whisperlight and have been using the Nova...but the new Soto got my attention...STOVE INBOUND....
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For the members who squeezed the trigger on the new Soto, I'll be interested to hear they work out.
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from what little I know..looks like REI has an exclusive...they have it backordered for about 2 weeks..
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from what little I know..looks like REI has an exclusive...they have it backordered for about 2 weeks.. Guess folks were not concerned with the "extravagant price"! MtnHtr
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mine was 118.00 shipping included..yee-haw
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I've had a Whsiperlite for almost 10 years now, it doesn't get a lot of use but I fired it up checking for the suspect leaks and such, luckily there weren't any. I've got the old pump model. When I got bored with the yard work yesterday I broke it down to give it a good cleaning. I wish there was a way to avoid the soot that I get when priming it without having to pack fire paste or alcohol in addition to white gas. The soot can clog the jet and seems to find its way on to my hands and eventually my other gear.
Been using a Super Cat alcohol stove for almost all of my stove needs the last 2-3 years.
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The soot can clog the jet and seems to find its way on to my hands and eventually my other gear.
As for clogging the jet you can mod your whisperlite with a shaker jet if it doesn't have one already.
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I have my dads svea 123, I don't know when he got it, but figure it's at least 60 years old. The downside of them are you have to prime them, you can't throttle them back, and they are loud.
The upside is they are pretty much bullet proof. The only thing I do to it is add fuel and run it.
I did pick up a coleman a few years ago, couldn't pass it up for $25 and admit being able to pump it up to prime, and the adjustable burner is nice. It is heavier than the svea, but not that bad.
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