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I am surprised that many who, last week, would not have believed BHO if he had said the sun would rise are now believing him as if he was speaking ex-cathedra.
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OBL is dead. It happened on Obama's watch, so he gets to take credit. That's how it works. Obama finally kept a campaign promise.
Not pissing off the muzzie world and by honoring a few customs will go a long way. I'm hoping we can get our kids the hell out of the region.
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Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
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I don't doubt that he was shot yesterday or whenever, but I find it really hard to believe that we haven't known where he was for a really long time if he has been living in that house since it was built.
The place kind of stuck out like a sore thumb. And of course, I find it hard to believe that someone in Pakastani intelligence didn't tip us off about it before Osama even finished unpacking.
It really smell like a deal of where Pakistan agreed to virtually imprison him and render him ineffective if we agreed not to kill him in Pakistan and save their government all of the backlash that would come if he was killed there.
So, if that were the case there are only two reasons as to why he was killed now. Either the situation in Pakistan and our relations with them have deteriorated to the point that we felt we had nothing to lose, or Obama did it in order to stop his free fall in public opinion polls.
Interesting & quite plausible take. There already is word that they have suspected he was there since at least last August.
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What makes me almost despondent is the degree to which so many of my otherwise sane fellow citizens grasp onto these various conspiracy takes on whatever the news happens to be. I am politically a pretty conservative member of this forum, but this president made a tough call to send JSOC into that compound. B2's or Tomahawks would have been a much simpler solution - and we would have been reading the kook class and the jihadists claiming he wasn't really dead. I was in the Pentagon on 9-11 and worked for weeks on our initial response as a couple of hundred of my fellow citizens were scrapped off the floors and walls. Any of us would have given anything then or at any point in the last ten years to have provided actionable intelligence to kill this monster. It is harder than you would ever believe to find someone who doesn't want to be found. Our intel services finally did and we ought to give credit where credit is due that the National Command Authority acted decisively.
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What makes me almost despondent is the degree to which so many of my otherwise sane fellow citizens grasp onto these various conspiracy takes on whatever the news happens to be. I am politically a pretty conservative member of this forum, but this president made a tough call to send JSOC into that compound. B2's or Tomahawks would have been a much simpler solution - and we would have been reading the kook class and the jihadists claiming he wasn't really dead. I was in the Pentagon on 9-11 and worked for weeks as a couple of hundred of my fellow citizens were scrapped off the floors and walls. Any of us would have given anything then or at any point in the last ten years to have provided actionable intelligence. It is harder than you would ever believe to find someone who doesn't want to be found. Our intel services finally did and we ought to give credit where credit is due that the National Command Authority acted decisively. Well said RedLeg.
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What makes me almost despondent is the degree to which so many of my otherwise sane fellow citizens grasp onto these various conspiracy takes on whatever the news happens to be. +1 But I wouldn't be so certain about that "otherwise sane" part...
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I would have been nice, it he was put in a wooden box and propped up like John Wesley Hardin at Ground Zero and let the people look for a month or two. Then dump him in a 55 gallon Drum and dump him off New Jersey. But we don't do such things anymore.
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Seems a bit odd.
Why would they bother to load his body on the boat if they were just going to dump it in the ocean?
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...that doesn't believe he was just shot yesterday and his body has been buried at sea? Not sure and no proof, but I think there is a major credability gap going on here. I guess I can see them saying it, so the mussies think he was buried in accordance with their religious beliefs, but my doubting mind is raising the BS flag, on that part of the reporting. JMHO.
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What makes me almost despondent is the degree to which so many of my otherwise sane fellow citizens grasp onto these various conspiracy takes on whatever the news happens to be. I am politically a pretty conservative member of this forum, but this president made a tough call to send JSOC into that compound. B2's or Tomahawks would have been a much simpler solution - and we would have been reading the kook class and the jihadists claiming he wasn't really dead. I was in the Pentagon on 9-11 and worked for weeks as a couple of hundred of my fellow citizens were scrapped off the floors and walls. Any of us would have given anything then or at any point in the last ten years to have provided actionable intelligence. It is harder than you would ever believe to find someone who doesn't want to be found. Our intel services finally did and we ought to give credit where credit is due that the National Command Authority acted decisively. Well said RedLeg. Indeed. +2
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Seems a bit odd.
Why would they bother to load his body on the boat if they were just going to dump it in the ocean?
Dental x-rays, dna samples, let the whole crew of the Vincennes piss on him. Maybe hey needed to chum up some sharks before trolling with his severed head. Dunnow, orders most likely.
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What makes me almost despondent is the degree to which so many of my otherwise sane fellow citizens grasp onto these various conspiracy takes on whatever the news happens to be. Its a perfectly acceptable reaction. It wasn't that long ago democrats were busy undermining a republican administration, pro-longing the wars by giving comfort to the enemy, and belittling our armed forces. So I hope you understand, that we understand, democrats are two faced caksuckers unworthy of a pat on the head.
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
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Seems a bit odd.
Why would they bother to load his body on the boat if they were just going to dump it in the ocean?
Maybe they didn't have time to test DNA and take dental imprints in downtown pakistan.
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
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Seems a bit odd.
Why would they bother to load his body on the boat if they were just going to dump it in the ocean?
So dozens of sailors can say they saw it happen? Just sayin....
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We want A CERTIFIED COPY OF THE DEATH CERTIFICATE! 
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Seems a bit odd.
Why would they bother to load his body on the boat if they were just going to dump it in the ocean?
Had we left the body there his followers would have made a huge deal about his funeral and enshrined his name forever. We did the same thing to the Nazi hierarchy after WWII. Hanged, burned and their ashes thrown into the Rhine in the middle of the night.
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We want A CERTIFIED COPY OF THE DEATH CERTIFICATE! Please. If there wasn't something rotten about this whole thing they'd be publicizing his real pictures like there was no tomorrow, and they certainly wouldn't have disposed of the body till America had more than enough chance to celebrate and be satisfied that all is as it appears.
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Had we left the body there his followers would have made a huge deal about his funeral and enshrined his name forever. We did the same thing to the Nazi hierarchy after WWII. Hanged, burned and their ashes thrown into the Rhine in the middle of the night. The man's a confessed mass murderer. Why would we even think about handing over his body to anyone. Not for years, at any rate, and then to his family at their transportation expense from America.
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We want A CERTIFIED COPY OF THE DEATH CERTIFICATE! Please. If there wasn't something rotten about this whole thing they'd be publicizing his real pictures like there was no tomorrow, and they certainly wouldn't have disposed of the body till America had more than enough chance to celebrate and be satisfied that all is as it appears. That settles it then. Bin Laden was killed & buried in Kenya!
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We want A CERTIFIED COPY OF THE DEATH CERTIFICATE! Please. If there wasn't something rotten about this whole thing they'd be publicizing his real pictures like there was no tomorrow, and they certainly wouldn't have disposed of the body till America had more than enough chance to celebrate and be satisfied that all is as it appears. That settles it then. Bin Laden was killed & buried in Kenya! Something definitely smells. Even you knee jerk Obama defenders have to admit that dumping the body at sea before America had a chance to process this whole thing is beyond suspicious.
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