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That Shooting through and "overpenetration" actually IS a concern with Barnes, even the little ones I use...got to "be sure of your target and beyond.."

Extra tags should come with all Barnes products!!

I'm almost inclined to think that the small

That's why I always yell "FORE!" before I shoot at games with a Barnes.

Well, I stopped another TSX last night. Still in the sticks and still can't download pics, but the test medium is pretty rough.

X-bullets or TSX's?

X-bullets threw major fliers for me. MAJOR.

TSX's I've used have been very accurate bullets.

Disadvantages: a generally poor BC which, combined with the fact that they can have expansion issues at lower speeds especially (from the fans: "drive 'em fast!" "they work best when bone is involved!") means they are a poor longer-range bullet. There have been way too many photo-documented examples of poor expansion- even at high impact speeds- to ignore this reality.

The poor BC means they lose speed fast and get moved around by the wind a bunch out at longer ranges. BTDT myself.

They are reputed to overpenetrate to what I'd call a ridiculous degree on thin-skinned game. This wouldn't matter except that it is also reputed to come at the cost of some quick-kill ability, on average, compared to a bullet that fragments some.

They are expensive. Considering how very easy it is to shoot through deer with about any ol' bullet that seems silly to me- to overpay to overpenetrate.

I'm of the belief that there's some real positives to the design, and will be loading them again this year for at least one rifle... but you asked for the negatives, so there's my take on that.

Walkin the tight rope or a tiptoe throw the tulips a bit ain't ya!!

No, they are reputed to penetrate. OVER penetration is a conclusion you've drawn based on that reputation.

Ok, fair enough.

From the virtually unanimous reports on how they work, I conclude that by my definition they WAY overpenetrate on thin-skinned game.

When there's a problem that that kind of penetration solves, then there's our huckleberry. Like for my lever-action timber elk rifle in .325... what better than a TSX?

Generally speaking I'm not seeing the problem that requires such a solution, though, but that's just how I see it and you are free to disagree <g>.

Plus they come in a DAMN fine box!

Dude, ...u've never gunned 'em. We all know ur kill numbers. How can U possibly expect anyone to take ur opinion seriously?

No, not in every case.

R u txting? Lol.

I've "gunned" them enough to know the bad BC is real. I've "gunned" enough other bullets to know I don't see a penetration issue with normal bullets- at least not how I "gun" them.

It's a thread about their downsides. Bad BC, pointless overpenetration, and high cost are a few.

The phookin' things certainly have a big upside. Different thread though.

R U paying attention? Lol...

They have seemed to kill more slowly for me on lung shots than other bullets.

Yeah, ...been paying attention (as have most) to ur nonsense (note box issues Thread, for one of the many pathetic examples) for more than a while.

PLEASE enlighten/ hang pics on first hand WAY, way OverPenetration experiences (hoping this is gonna be WAY, way better than ur scope mounting pics)...

Speed them up if possible......in my rifles on deer for instance a .22-250 seems to put them down quicker with lung shots than an .06....they both work of course, but speed kills...

Ingwe,

That's because they can't hear it coming... grin

I'm slinging them out at 3200 or better--when put through the lungs they seem to not kill as quickly as a softpoint for me--sample size of 8 or 10 now.

That said, there are certain things Barnes can do that others can't, which is why I keep dabbling with them.