Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire SWAT kills Marine in his home

I was trained that no amount of dope is worth dying or killing over. There will always be more sometime in the future if the evidence gets flushed. Forcing the op with children present is bad juju in the making.

Nothing illegal was found in the house.

An Ambulance was there in 2 minutes and was not allowed to care for him.



These two points of information will not help the Police in the civil case that will be filed against them.

Looks like they had to kick down the door and shoot the place up...no other choice?

One thing about it, whether your a cop or drug runner, being on the offensive, dressing up, kicking down doors and shooting up a place is a good way to kill someone.

Everyone likes to be Scarface..

1. Obviously the car was unmarked or no one would bother to check it.

2. If some dumbass kept driving by my house and I had access to checking who's it was, who here wouldn't check it, since obviously it was not identifiable as law enforcement?

3. And what is Storie alleging by this statement? He has no clue (remember he "believes") whether the house across the street or 50 other houses in the neighborhood ran that search, maybe even a cop 4 houses down who thought a car casing the area looked suspicious.

This Storie character is more annoying than Sheriff Dupnik. He's sounds straight out of Casino or Goodfellas, like a greasy little mafia mouthpiece.

Perhaps it wasn't a drugs bust but a turf war?

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As to his kids,I guess daddy shouldn't have pointed the rifle at the cops then. They knew LE was at their house to serve a warrant,I'm guessing.

Or perahps daddy shouldn't have been in that line of work at all if he was concerned about his kids..

I think most want to go home to their loved ones.

[quote=HawkI]Looks like they had to kick down the door and shoot the place up...no other choice.

One thing about it, whether your a cop or drug runner, being on the offensive, dressing up, kicking down doors and shooting up a place is a good way to kill someone.

Everyone likes to be Scarface.. [/quote

It's funny you mention that because he's a cult hero for many druggie types. I've been in more than a few houses that have scarface memorabilia plastered all over the walls. Not that it's a bad thing.

IDK...If someone yells "Police" and kicks in my door...I am unloading...why???Because I know there is no reason for them to kick in my door...even if they are police.

Backpedal? The more I hear, the worse it looks.

I've said all along, I won't fault the SWAT team for shooting if it turns out to be a righteous shoot. The guy was holding a rifle and If I am busting down that door, I am probably shooting as well.

The number of shots given the circumstances and the fact this was ordered at all, are the troubling parts.

I'm guessing he armed himself because he did know. Schit man...now you got me speculating. I'll wait for the follow-up stories.....and some more facts.

If the shooting was legit,I'll gladly represent the heat. If it was a baddie,I'll take the family and retire after my 1/3rd.

I'm thinking they didn't break down Ghandi's door,though.

Bob,

I'm pretty in tune to what most LEO's want to do; these guys are acting like they had no choice but to do what they did.

They didn't when they made it personal...

Bull chit.



Last I checked, it wasn't against the law to own any of those things. When the best thing you've got is that the guy had a picture of someone, you're really grasping for straws.



Bull chit.

Brian.

Pointing a firearm at a cop is a risky proposition for sure. Hell, half the cops coming out of academies nowadays are trained to call their supervisor who then calls the chief who then calls the city manager who then calls the liability attorney to authorize the now dead cop to use deadly force.

Keyword.


Sorry, but if I am clean and someone busts down my door in black clothes, I've got my AR on them at the door. Not like there are no home invasions in Arizona.

If this was regular SD officers in green/blue etc., and SD vehicles lit up outside, then I would be less cautious. There is no way I am letting ninja's bust down my door and not protect my family.

This is the downside of SWAT units if the house is clean, they look and act just like the bad guys would.

Like I said...startin to smell less bad...but with the original story...there was a smell...and If I shot at a deer 71 times...hit him 60...I would not have to send in a robot to determine the likelyhood of his causing me harm.

How many guys trafficking drugs do you guess live in newer neighborhoods in $113,000 homes and work night shift at the copper mine?

Maybe some guy selling quarter bags on the side to friends..... but then if they're using SWAT home invasions to bust a guy for that, that's [bleep] up in and to itself.

Guys involved in serious trafficking that would draw a SWAT home invasion don't usually fit the facts of this guys life. An assumption, I realize, but it sure doesn't follow the norm.

Would home invasions fit your norm,FB?

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You armchair SWAT guys got a handle on it all. Like they knew how many times he was hit. He moved out of view...you don't walk into the possibilty of being shot unless you know for certain,period. They used robots to clear the area and there is nothing improper about that,if their factual recitation proves accurate. If this man was part of a drug dealing/home invasion operation,I'll fall asleep 5 minutes after my head hits the pillow.