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Don't really have a beef with Remington's, but I don't own any for myself. The wife has two because they fit her better than any other firearms. A Model 7 and a 870 Lightweight Limited. I was surprised with the model 7, the trigger was not that bad and eventually I found loads it liked. The only guns I have owned that are good to go right out of the box have been Sako, Steyr, and Tikka. Also have a CZ 550 that was accurate but took awhile for the action to smooth up. All will shoot MOA or better, and I did not spend a dime on aftermarket parts. To me Remington 700's are like the Ruger 10/22, you can make them into whatever your wallet is willing to spend. Rather than have to spend money on a brand new rifle I would rather spend it hunting. It's sad that Rem 700s require work even when new now, they were great guns in the 70s right out of the box. Never had a problem with the 70's and 80's 700 except for a 25-06 ADL which had the barrel channel cut wrong. All the others were great. Oh I forgot I had an FS that had 2 triggers replaced by an authorized Remington center in Jacksonville. I think there is a big difference compared to current production.
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Get both actions properly built with the same quality barrels and there will be no difference whatsoever You might get a push feed Model 70 to shoot ok, but a CRF will not shoot with the Model 700.
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You never get tired of this schitt, do ya' Swampy...?
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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I dislike the Ruger and Sako systems. They limit you to the factory supplied junk.
A Remington 700 needs no work at all to shoot 1/2 MOA groups.
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919th Special Operations Wing 1983-1985 1993-1994
"Manus haec inimica tyrannis / Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem" ~Algernon Sidney~
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You never get tired of this schitt, do ya' Swampy...? Never get tired of telling the truth.
1st Special Operations Wing 1975-1983
919th Special Operations Wing 1983-1985 1993-1994
"Manus haec inimica tyrannis / Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem" ~Algernon Sidney~
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Here's swampy's 1/2" 700 group  ![[Linked Image]](http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/Woodsman1956/Remington/100_3238.jpg)
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You never get tired of this schitt, do ya' Swampy...? Fixed it for ya.
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Yep that's why there are so many Ruger and Sako aftermarket parts and tons of Gunsmiths who specialize in nothing but Rugers and Sako's.
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You never get tired of this schitt, do ya' Swampy...? Never get tired of telling the truth. The truth and yourself have yet to be aquainted. You have zero credibity.
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Here's swampy's 1/2" 700 group Marc, maybe he is using the metric system. 
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Yep that's why there are so many Ruger and Sako aftermarket parts and tons of Gunsmiths who specialize in nothing but Rugers and Sako's. Amazing isn't it .
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I'm thinking that if I keep this up I can get to 5K+ posts and I can be an expert too. Now the only problem is what to rant about? Perhaps my BSA Martini Model 12 best damn 22LR ever.....
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1/2 Meter of angle? 
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Yep that's why there are so many Ruger and Sako aftermarket parts and tons of Gunsmiths who specialize in nothing but Rugers and Sako's. Amazing isn't it . It's kinda like saying a car kicks ass because there are so many repair shops that specialize in fixing them. As been mentioned before - the reason the Rem is specialized in by "gunsmiths" has more to do with it's ease of being chucked up in a lathe - not in some mysticism of their metalurgy or because Remington makes them. Am wondering how a true bolt face, true action face, lugs cut square, quality barrel that's been chambered with care on a Remington is somehow more accurate than a true bolt face, true action face, lugs cut square, quality barrel that's been chambered with care on a Ruger. It ain't. The difference wouldn't be the end product but how easy it is to arrive at the end product.
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1/2 Meter of angle? Yeah that Swampass is a real genius since he knows the Metrical system 
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I was perhaps thinking of the need for Gunsmith's to perform all of that work on a rifle..
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The Model 700 was designed by a benchrest shooter to be very stiff because there weren't any suitable rifles available at that time. That's why it's the most accurate boltaction production rifle in the world.
It needs no work to be that. That's what it is.
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Remington doesn't design anything to be the best, they design it to be cheap to produce.
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Remington doesn't design anything to be the best, they design it to be cheap to produce. Au contraire, nothing can touch a 700 action (or clone) when it comes to accuracy.
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Impressed....not many people can spell that right.... Not to mention you are bilingual...
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