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Originally Posted by ltppowell

Au contraire, nothing can touch a 700 action (or clone) when it comes to accuracy.


Exactly.

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Originally Posted by RDFinn
Originally Posted by ltppowell

Au contraire, nothing can touch a 700 action (or clone) when it comes to accuracy.


Exactly.


It will have to be a clone then since I have had 50 or more 700's and none have produced the sterling results Swampshitter has experienced.

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Maybe you should try one of the off brands......... grin

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Originally Posted by RDFinn
Maybe you should try one of the off brands......... grin



LOL unlike Swampy i have

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Merci mon ami.


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You'll never catch me defending Remington quality control, machining, triggers, barrels or stocks, but the fact that their actions make the most dependably accurate rifles is fact.


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Sometimes one slips through the cracks and you get a 1/2 MOA shooter. The good part is the ones that don't deliver are easily modified on the cheap.


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There is no doubt the 700 is the choice of bench-rest and paper shooters, but that kind of accuracy (tiny little groups) is just not required in a hunting rifle. Half or even one MOA is more than sufficient. A hunting rifle represents a "whole rifle" concept where acceptable accuracy (in my opinion, 1MOA for scope rifles anyway)is but one component. Reliability, fit, form and function to a particular hunting application are also equally important and as overall hunting rifles, there are a few others that best the Remington in my opinion.


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Reliability, fit, form and function to a particular hunting application are also equally important and as overall hunting rifles, there are a few others that best the Remington in my opinion.


I agree pretty much, however "form" is not a priority of mine. Putting one bullet where I want it is my priority. Form is for sissies. smile


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
You'll never catch me defending Remington quality control, machining, triggers, barrels or stocks, but the fact that their actions make the most dependably accurate rifles is fact.


I still own Remingtons but it would be completely disingenuos for me to say I never had a problem with one or that all shot under an inch like Assclown Swamp claims.

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As I stated earlier, other than actions that say Remington, there is little left of the original rifles that I own.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
As I stated earlier, other than actions that say Remington, there is little left of the original rifles that I own.


The 2 I have are shooters so I am going to leave them as is except drop the mountain rifle in a edge stock.

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Lots of them or great shooters. I am just lucky enough to have a top shelf rifle builder as a neighbor and friend.


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Hey wait a minute. That's cheating..

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Everybody is lucky in something! smile


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Originally Posted by RDFinn
Hey wait a minute. That's cheating..


No it's called repairing a rifle grin

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I forgot that decreases the value..

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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Lots of them or great shooters. I am just lucky enough to have a top shelf rifle builder as a neighbor and friend.


Whoaa there. You mean you're not shooting unbedded ADL's into groups so small the Hubble is required to view them? What's the world coming to?

The one that matters the mostest is the first one and placing it exactly where it needs to go is a priority whistle. Even one or two Remingtons are in that group, but alas, they were all broken before I bedded them.

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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Originally Posted by RDFinn
Hey wait a minute. That's cheating..


No it's called repairing a rifle grin


I'd go with that too, 'cept I seldom know if they're broke, or not, before I get 'em "repaired". smile


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As I promised Swampy I would send along some pics of what a QUALITY factory rifle looks like. Browning Safari FN action, quality Claro walnut and an easy 1 MOA shooter and that is all that is necessary to kill any big game within ethical hunting ranges with a 30-06.
You'll note in the third picture that big thing on the front of bolt is a controlled action claw extractor. Been working just fine since 1898 and just a tad more rugged than than a Remington flattened paperclip.
When we get enough together for his African Lion hunt, he best hope the PH has a rifle built on this action or he might end up as cubs' dinner.

Did I mention I bought it for LESS than a typical 80 grit finish 700 fitted with gen-u-ine swamp walnut and a trigger made out of recycled cat food cans ?

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