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I need advice on a good bullet for elk My guide said it's a good caliber. he prefers someone with a 223 that can shoot it than a monster 30-06 that they can't shoot. My 30-06 can only shoot 1.5 in groups, while my 223 can shoot 1/4" groups, so he suggested I bring the 223. because accuracy kills better than caliber.
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The answer to any elk bullet question is the 225 grain... caliber doesn't matter... the 338/223 numbs'm...
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40 grain V-Max. But don't load it too fast...you don't want to over-penetrate...gotta make sure all that energy is used up INSIDE the animal.
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And we know that a .257 Roberts is not enough on elk too.....
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Anybody that can tolerate the recoil of a .223 should be able to step up to the recoil of a .22-250. It is a better mouse trap for elk Flinch
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I found a .17 caliber bullet in the front leg of my elk last year: Be sure to use the 20 grainers over the 17 grainers--the higher sectional density makes elk DRT!
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Did you know in Minneasota, a potato gun meets all the requirements to be a legal firearm for big game. It meets the definition of a firearm and the requirements for muzzleloading season. It's also illegal to hunt big game with a rifle in the half the state, but it's ok to hunt varmint with a 50 bmg
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I'd use the potato gun before I'd use the 223. Is it April Fool's day or something?
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I know many native Alaskans that use the .223, and the .222 on Polar bear. Drop them dead in their tracks.
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A 150 grain .224
You won�t be able to load it from the magazine and stabilizing a 3" long bullet might require feathers or vanes.
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If the tip of that long bullet exits the elk, but the shank doesn't get into the animal before the bullet loses forward momentum, is that over and under penetration?
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I need advice on a good bullet for elk My guide said it's a good caliber. he prefers someone with a 223 that can shoot it than a monster 30-06 that they can't shoot. My 30-06 can only shoot 1.5 in groups, while my 223 can shoot 1/4" groups, so he suggested I bring the 223. because accuracy kills better than caliber. Won't you feel a bit over-gunned with an accurate .223? People insist velcotiy and energy don't matter either, that it is all about placement. May I suggest a .22 LR is more than adequate for most shots if that is the case?
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I did a thread like this over on AR 5 or 6 years ago...
funny thing was, folks were always flaming those asking about using a 243 or 257 Roberts for elk...
but asking about using a 223, there was like 8 pages or responses and NO negative comments against using the 223... plenty of suggestions about type of bullets to use and over and over about shot placement...
only thing I could figure out is they were thinking maybe using a 223, where you could machine gun them with enough rounds...
the internet is a crazy place sometimes...
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Someone here posted a pic of a cow elk they shot with 223. So they will work...
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