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Damnfine bucks..... even if they were shot with sissy rifles...
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Bob, it does get the juices going doesn't it though it's hard when it's 95 out. Going to western CO myself and will be looking for one like scenarshooter has there (very, very nice scenarshooter). No 260 or 270, or 7 Mash though-- 284!
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sissied this'un plumb to death...... the 260. It works on bigger deers, too....
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I would choose the .270. However, get the one you want more and worry about practicality later. Incidentally, check out Hornady 150 SST & Interbond if you want a high BC .270 game bullet. Not VLD target bullet, but at .525 are pretty respectible.
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George we know that works too! Problem is there are many good one's.
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The. 260 7x57 and the. 270 all kill chit equally dead....
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sissied this'un plumb to death...... the 260. It works on bigger deers, too.... I think Don faked this photo.... just sayin'........
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Pat-love the pic of the yotes in the stubble, good stuff! I showed it to my G-son and he was like...can we go Today!! 2950 for the .260 I'd guess would be from a tube a bit longer is it not? I'd think something in the 2800-2850 range would be about it for a 22-23"? Dober (good to see ya the other day) From my limited .260 experience, I think you hit the nail on the head. With 140gr Bullets about 2750 - 2800 has been reasonable in my Low Wall with a 24" barrel. 130s are good for about 2850 or so. I know many of the tactical guys get 2850 with 140s, but that's right on the edge of reasonable. If the manufacturers put out 9" twist .270s and the bullet manufacturers put out .277 bullets with .6 BCs, the .270 would win hands down. As it is the .270 still wins out to 500 yards or so, where the high BC 6.5s finally catch up and take over. As for me, I just like short actions, but still went with a Wyatt's box on my current .260 build to allow for the VLDs. If I weren't going with the VLDs, a 2.8" box would probably have been fine, John
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I'd never grab a 260 if there was a 270 in the rack... Maybe somebody can post this pic for you b/c I am in Norway.. as I think if the 260 were in THIS rack, you might think twice http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.shopacoholic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/biggest-bra-size.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.shopacoholic.com/biggest-bra-size&usg=__eZikGpOiMiko-OFxACrclOHm1jg=&h=352&w=500&sz=28&hl=en&start=109&zoom=1&tbnid=w2lGy0YIrWJvyM:&tbnh=127&tbnw=163&ei=N90jTvqJGMXfsga0i5WmAg&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dbig%2Bbreast%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1441%26bih%3D607%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=316&page=5&ndsp=27&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:109&tx=57&ty=38 Now if you guys want to just kill chit dead, grab either one in a rifle you like and learn how to steer it. All this talk is just mental masturbation! If you choose to continue, you will all arrive at the same destination....satisfaction if you do your part. LOL. Nothing a 270 will do w-say a 140 AB, that a 260-130AB or 7/08-140 AB wont do if you do your job. SwampTroll, its clear you are impotent and have nothing to contribute. Tell Remington your assignment is done and the public does not buy your crap. You obviously never cycled a 260 thru a Sako....more buttery smooth than your 700. Face it guys, its like ice cream, they all get the job done, just in different flavors. DD - wisdom has come full circle w-todays bullets in 243s and I wont argue with your point, they do work and very well ElkIvory, my advice: Get the 270 b/c its calling your name and when you are not feeling up to rolling great 260 ammo, you can just grab it and some off the shelf ammo. Now in the meantime, also build a quality 260 and after getting to know it, see which rifle you grab most often As I said, they really overlap, all you have to do is run numbers on the above 3 combos and you will find they run w/in an inch of each other IIRC to 400 yds and not much diff out to any sane distance. Enjoy your rifles after ending the madness. As to the budget, you can always sell the one you use the least.
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No real interest in a Sako or a .260. I'd as soon have a matte finished 700 ADL from Walmart in .270 or .30-06.
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Numbers are numbers and results are well, results. The large male coyote on the right was shot at 880 meters(961 yards) while laying on top of the dark hill in the upper right hand corner of the picture. The pair came in together and I took the female in close at about 100 meters. The male never stopped until he got on top of the ridge, where he layed down. I had a friend along as we were hunting antelope and got side tracked when heard these coyotes howling. I was shooting 139gr scenars at 2850fps in my GAP .260. I'm kinda fond of that rifle... Hope my new Surgeon will shoot like that ! WTG Pat... I'm beginning to think I want to hang out with Scenarshooter and SendaroMan... you boys have some good tastes and also some class and skills to go with that... My 260s look like factory crap compared to those toys...
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Far from a reloading expert here. From my very limited experience with both the .260rem and the .270win I'd say they are alot closer than I thought..
Sure the velocity edge goes to the .270 but.
I run 6.5 140 Partitions @ 2800 BC = .490 in my 22" mtn rifle 6.5 130gr Accubonds @ 2900 BC = .509 in same rifle
Currently running .277 150gr Partitions @ 2850 BC = .465 .277 140gr Accubonds @ 2950 BC = .496 .277 140gr VLD's @ 2950 BC = .509
I could no doubt bump up the .270 velocity but all the loads(.260 and .270) are scary accurate and I'm good to 500yds on Deer and Elk with either.
Only real difference for me is the difference in rifles. Being a CRF guy I tend to grab the .270 in my Mod 70 Extreme Weather.
The way I load these two they are nearly Identical.. .260 having less recoil.
An EW in a .260 and the 270 would prolly get sold.
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It may be sacrilege to say this here, but all of this can go by the name of a long ago movie, "Much Ado about Nothing." The dividing by degrees between a 260 and a 270 and a host of other similar cartridges is what loonies (loonys ?) dither over, but, practically, in the field a good hunter could go forth not even knowing what his rifle is chambered for (in regard to these two) and not be hampered. Does this get me kicked off the 'campfire. edited because of ADD
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No real interest in a Sako or a .260. I'd as soon have a matte finished 700 ADL from Walmart in .270 or .30-06. ..............Walmart seems to be your favorite retail place Swampy. I`m sure that by now, you advised them to stock nothing but Remingtons chambered only in 270s and 30-06s?? Yep! Those are the only two rounds that ANYONE could certainly need. Anything else, is just down right unneeded and is blasphemus in the world of Swampy. Afterall, Walmart should make `ol Swampy feel right at home ..........:D
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You're pretty much spot on George, lots of micro mgt of what I call BG (ballistic gack).
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bigsqueeze almost hurt my feelings, then I realized he was talking to Swampy. Of course swampy thinks a 35 Whelen is useless, he has apparently never launched a 225 gr TSX out of one at 2700 fps either!
JOC was right. The 270 Winchester on a Model 70 is a great combination as is the 30/06 and 375 H&H
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bigsqueeze almost hurt my feelings, then I realized he was talking to Swampy. Of course swampy thinks a 35 Whelen is useless, he has apparently never launched a 225 gr TSX out of one at 2700 fps either! ............. ....Almost gotcha there ay?
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Its all good BG, I like all this gun talk. Kinda like sittin around the campfire.
JOC was right. The 270 Winchester on a Model 70 is a great combination as is the 30/06 and 375 H&H
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