Hmmmm..what has Mass done to lead the country on illegal immigration,again? I forgot.
Romney last night on border security "of course you build a fence."
I believe I heard him say that, no?
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Yes,but apples and oranges,Dave. The fence is one thing,20+ mil in the country already is the other real issue. What's a fence going to do for that crowd?
I don't know if a fence helps. I wont pretend to know, I'm on the other border and it would be offensive to the southern border folks for me to act like I know what they deal with.
20 million sounds like chicken feed compared to the billions obama has and continues to toss into the wind. He calls it "stimulous"
Take all that money and toss it at the border, build the great wall of china and man it. At least then when all the "stimulous" is gone you have something you can see and touch.
Hmmmm..what has Mass done to lead the country on illegal immigration,again? I forgot.
Romney last night on border security "of course you build a fence."
I believe I heard him say that, no?
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Yes,but apples and oranges,Dave. The fence is one thing,20+ mil in the country already is the other real issue. What's a fence going to do for that crowd?
I don't know if a fence helps. I wont pretend to know, I'm on the other border and it would be offensive to the southern border folks for me to act like I know what they deal with.
20 million sounds like chicken feed compared to the billions obama has and continues to toss into the wind. He calls it "stimulous"
Take all that money and toss it at the border, build the great wall of china and man it. At least then when all the "stimulous" is gone you have something you can see and touch.
I think we could consider a border fence a "shovel ready" job. Bottom line, there is no will on either side to actually solve this problem.
You're back-pedaling. Opt-outs are implemented to give notice and priority to parents.
OK, you go on defending what Perry himself said he handled wrong.
what he said he did wrong was using an executive order instead of having the legislature pass it, which it would have overwhelmingly, not being populated with vaccine freaks.
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You're back-pedaling. Opt-outs are implemented to give notice and priority to parents.
OK, you go on defending what Perry himself said he handled wrong.
what he said he did wrong was using an executive order instead of having the legislature pass it, which it would have overwhelmingly, not being populated with vaccine freaks.
Category: HPV � Texas � public health � vaccines Posted on: April 28, 2007 9:40 AM, by Nick Anthis
On Monday, 23 April, the Texas Senate voted 30-1 in favor of its version of HB1089, a bill overturning Rick Perry's February executive order mandating that all girls entering the sixth grade receive the HPV (human papilloma virus) vaccine Gardasil. On Wednesday, 25 April, the Texas House approved the Senate version of the bill by a 135-2 vote. On Thursday, 26 April, the bill was sent to Governor Rick Perry, who has ten days to sign the bill into law, veto the bill, or do neither (which would have the same effect as signing the bill). Even if Perry vetoes the bill, both the House and the Senate have the necessary 2/3 majority votes to override his veto.
Smarter than a DSMFer supporting a kook that says we're to blame for 9/11, that thinks NOW he's a supporter of Reagan (when he dropped out of the (R) party because of Reagan), and simply can't pull his head out of his own ass long enough to realize he's a bumbling, stupid, bitter old man.
Smarter than a DSMFer supporting a kook that says we're to blame for 9/11, that thinks NOW he's a supporter of Reagan (when he dropped out of the (R) party because of Reagan), and simply can't pull his head out of his own ass long enough to realize he's a bumbling, stupid, bitter old man.
Whoa there chili ddiicckk, you sound a little bitter there yourself. Now get back to your cubicle, you got lots of bills to pay.
"The governor, perhaps feeling the heat of the outrage of many of his friends, states that his executive order allows for parents to opt out of the program, but there are concerns that doing so will negate their insurance policies".
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The vaccine protects girls and women against strains of the sexually transmitted virus that cause most cases of cervical cancer and genital warts. Merck & Co.�s Gardasil is the only HPV vaccine on the market. Advertise | AdChoices
Republican Rep. Dennis Bonnen bristled at the governor�s criticism of his bill.
�We should not and are now not going to offer the 165,000 11-year-olds in Texas up to be the study group for Merck to find out what the implications of this vaccine would be for these girls,� he said.
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AUSTIN, Texas (AP) � Texas lawmakers are fighting to block the governor's order requiring that sixth-grade girls be vaccinated against the virus that causes cervical cancer, with the House giving final approval to a bill to make the shots strictly voluntary.
Gov. Rick Perry's executive order has inflamed conservatives who say it contradicts Texas' abstinence-only sexual education policies and intrudes into family lives. Some critics also have questioned whether the vaccine has been proven safe.
The House voted 118-23 on Wednesday to approve a bill that would keep the vaccine off the list of required shots for school attendance. The measure now heads to the state Senate, where more than half the members are co-sponsoring an identical bill.
So the assertion that the objection to the mandatory vaccination was purely procedural, is flawed.
Am I the only one who finds all these "career politicians" extremely distasteful? It's the same old business as usual. I see the guardisil order Perry signed as a symptom of our current political climate. Lining someones pocket because you have the political clout to do so.
No politican of either party would dare to expose another on graft or paybacks owed to lobbyists because they all have their fingers in the jelly jar.
None of the current nominees want anything to do with a discourse on political contributions and the paybacks that resulted from same. Until that stink becomes just a memory erased from a candidates resume we're gonna go down as a nation governed into oblivion by the good ole boy,s club.
Never tell your problems to anyone. 20% don't care and 80% are glad you have em.
Ron Paul is the only one on that stage last night that MAYBE couldn't beat obama right now.
to win an election and get swing states, you have to pull in moderates and independents. While the hardcore GOP folks will pull the lever for whatever sack of [bleep] ultimately gets the nomination, what we saw in the last election is that the big stick diplomacy, tax break for the wealthy, you got us into this mess RINO candidate isn't going to pull it off.
Even the tea party voters don't live in a vacuum, the common bond between them is wanting a fiscally responsible government but whatever candidate gets the nod, if he/she doesn't appeal to their hot button issues, they just won't vote.
While you may see a large number of "anyone but Obama" voters because of the circles you live in, those people voted for McCain in the last election - and we see how that worked. Has Obama screwed up enough to push the rest of the fence sitters back to the GOP?
IMO, not with the field I saw last night.
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All this "debate" and it's going to come down to a handful of states (some of which may/may not even vote republican in the general election) and then the rest of us will step in line and vote for whoever is left on the ballot against Obama.
In all honesty that's why I haven't watched much of the debates or followed many of the candidates except for 1 or 2 who scare the crap out of me. If you don't live in one of those early states it won't even matter unless you are trying to decide who to send money to in an effort to influence it before it gets to your state.
I'd like to think it would work out where everyone's vote in the primary would matter but it's just reality that it doesn't work out that way. Basically it's going to come down to a vote for Obama or a vote against Obama.
