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I agree about the 200-300 yard test. One test at 100 is inconclusive. You need better data.
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I find it interesting that any time anyone (including me) gives a real world velocity that uses a reliable sourced listed load in any of the '08 based cartridges that there is someone just waiting to pounce so to speak on the fact that they have gotten way more in their '06 based cartridge. The 308 win (and 7-08) in the hands of an informed handloader with today's powders and bullets can better all but a couple of High Energy/SuperPerf options out there for most factory ammo for the '06 based rounds. How many factory loads are there for 165 gr '06 that better 2840 fps? I can find two (Fed HE and Hor SP). I have a great Short Action rifle, weighing 7-2 scoped, shooting 50 grains of powder, bettering 98% of the guys out there hunting with their '06, and that is cool. Maybe I just like the underdog, but the Long Actions have zero appeal to me and the fact I'm beating most '06 loads only makes it that much better.
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If you read the opening post,the OP reports load results from the 308 and the 30/06,therefore inviting comparisons,which is what he got.. You might have missed this point.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Me personally, just because I love cool old rifles, I'd hunt the pre-64 Win. I couldn't care a rat's ass whether or not the Ed Brown could put 50 rounds through the same hole at 300 yds. It just doesn't squirt my pickle like that ol' Winchester does.
But you do whatever blows your skirt up.
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Know that it is not the knowing, nor the talking, nor the reading man, but the doing man, that at last will be found the happiest man. - Thomas Brooks (1608-1680)
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How well do 220 grain Partitions group in that .308?
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2000MR comes dangerously close to evening the playing field and making this a moot discussion. 2840 fps for 165 gr Partition in my 23" 308 win. ....and 60 gr H205 took the 30/06 with 165's to 3000 fps from the 23" barrel of a M76 Dakota I owned;and RL19 comes darn close....not surprising when we consider that many on here use todays slow burners to get a solid 2800 fps from the 30/06 with 180's..... Where we at?   Does it matter on a deer or black bear? No; but things are what they are..... All day, every day, case capacity wins the day.  +1. Bob always make such damn good points it's hard to argue. I will ad though that shooting through the chrono and "not shooting for groups" tells us nothing about how the load really shoots (accuracy wise). Those groups could have been a total fluke. Just sayin......
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Me personally, just because I love cool old rifles, I'd hunt the pre-64 Win. There it is!
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I predict your question will be answered by noon of the first day if you carry that heavy Marine Sniper rifle and huge scope around all day long.
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