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The time for children to learn where the "line" is before they are 6 years old. The childs personality is set at that time.
Set the line by that time and you'll have good kids.


I agree 100% with this. Worked in my family with my kids.



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I was whipped with belts, razor straps and cedar switches as a kid, but never like that.
I've spanked all three of my kids numerous times, but never with anything but my hand and only on their butt.

In this State if you were to spank your kids in any manner other than with your hand on their butt, you most certainly run the risk of losing your children to child protective services, as they deem it abuse.

What that video displayed was not discipline, but abuse pure and simple. If he had done that to someone outside of his daughter, he would have been charged with assault in the 1st degree and he would have been looking at a minimum of 60 months or more in prison here. What he really needs is good caning and to be hung by the neck with his favorite belt.

Kids need spankings, but they don't need to be abused or assaulted for their punishment.



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Originally Posted by triggerguard1
If he had done that to someone outside of his daughter, he would have been charged with assault in the 1st degree and he would have been looking at a minimum of 60 months or more in prison here.
That cannot be the parental standard, however, as any sort of spanking, no matter how mild, would be illegal if involuntarily done to anyone but your child. Short of actual harm, i.e., requiring treatment by a medical professional, what happens inside the family unit needs to remain completely sacrosanct vis-�-vis government, or the slippery slope will take us somewhere none of you folks want to go. That is a guarantee. Not everybody gets perfect parents, or even good parents, but that's not the government's concern short of real physical harm or sexual abuse.

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Each of us should ask ourselves this question: " If I was standing there in that girl's bedroom witnessing this event, what would I do?" For all those saying this was acceptable discipline, then you should be able to say you would have just stood there and watched. On the other hand, . . .


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Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
For all those saying this was acceptable discipline, then you should be able to say you would have just stood there and watched. On the other hand, . . .


I strongly dislike watching people kiss and vomit. That alone doesn't make either one wrong.


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He'd have been bleeding...........



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There's nothing wrong with what he did. The Bible says if you spare the rod you hate your child.


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The difference is simple, did he do this to instill displine, or did he do it for his own satisfaction. Teaching (pain does teach) or his own release of frustration.
And a parent is also responsible in not loosing control, he is the adult in this relationship.

Its hard to know what is enough exactly, but this was way too much for the transgretion. It went from displine to cruelty, to his need and not hers.


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In your opinion. You weren't there. It's none of our business.


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Everything in here is opinion. And cruelty to children is my business.

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That's what's wrong with this country. We and the government has to have their nose stuck in other prople's business.


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Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
Each of us should ask ourselves this question: " If I was standing there in that girl's bedroom witnessing this event, what would I do?" For all those saying this was acceptable discipline, then you should be able to say you would have just stood there and watched. On the other hand, . . .
In my opinion, it was very poorly handled, and the father is a jerk who lets his emotions control him, and the mother's not very good either. My only point is that we shouldn't permit family matters to rise to the level of government interference, however, until there's real physical harm or sexual abuse involved. The family needs to remain sacrosanct for anything short of that, or you're going to have a camel's nose under the tent phenomenon that most are not going to like.

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There's nothing wrong with what he did. The Bible says if you spare the rod you hate your child.
A belt is not a rod.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

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Actually, the judge is not a very smart parent.

If indeed his whole issue was his daughter illegally downloading music on to her PC, then the SMART thing to have done would have been to simply REMOVE her computer from the HOUSE. Period. No belt beatings needed to do that.

After a sufficient amount of time, if she could be trusted to use it responsibly again ,then the privilege would be restored.



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There's nothing wrong with what he did. The Bible says if you spare the rod you hate your child.
A belt is not a rod.


Your skull isn't a container for gray matter either.


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You are right, children are chattle and parents should be able to treat them as they wish. There is no limit to be considered in what is done to them, no responsibly for the parent to consider.
No wonder so many are heartless [bleep] when they grow up.




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The best way to ensure your children are worthless crap is not to spank them. That's my Biblical and well studied position. I've never seen it fail even once.


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I never said not spank them, you need to reread the posting, if you ever cared what was really said. I noted that he want too far. There is a big, big difference.

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I don't care what you say, because you're wrong. A father spanked his kid, and you're running your mouth about it.


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