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Hi, I have a rifle marked Henriksen on top of the barrel. I assume this rifle was made by Iver Henriksen. It is marked 25 Neidner on the side. Is it spelled wrong? I see it both ways when I plug A.O.Neidner in the search engine. I kinda think the caliber was unmarked when it was made. I have rifles marked C.M.O'Neil and J.R.Buhmiller on the barrels.They have no caliber markings. Did they not mark the caliber of the rifles back then? I'm thinking about having the other two marked. Would this hurt the value of the rifles? The Buhmiller marked barrel is a 22-250. The O'Neil rifle is a 333 OKH belted. It seems crazy not to have a rifle marked. Thanks
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... It is marked 25 Neidner on the side. Is it spelled wrong? I see it both ways when I plug A.O.Neidner in the search engine. ... hanco- The spelling is Niedner, pronounced "need-ner". Below is a scan of an ad for the Niedner Rifle Corp. from the January 1928 issue of The American Rifleman. --Bob .
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I have a couple of things that Ad Niedner made.
Both are stamped NIEDNER, just like in the ad above.
And Whelen is WhelEn, not "WhelAn," pronounced "Whay-len," not "Whee-len." (Or so the good colonel thought � but he didn't know today's quasi-literate shooters or their criteria for such things!)
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I have a couple of things that Ad Niedner made.
Both are stamped NIEDNER, just like in the ad above. Yep!Image from : http://www.cornellpubs.com/old-guns/item_desc.php?item_id=529And Whelen is WhelEn, not "WhelAn," pronounced "Whay-len," not "Whee-len." (Or so the good colonel thought � but he didn't know today's quasi-literate shooters or their criteria for such things!) Thanks for that. It perturbs me a little when folks get it wrong. Cheers! -Bob F.
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It perturbs me that it is spelled wrong on a nice rifle. The workmanship is on par with the Al Biesen rifle that I own. It is a mauser action. If it is indeed an Iver Henriksen rifle I'm proud to own it. I learned of Henriksen,Buhmiller and O'Neil on this forum. Thanks. It got me enterested in the old gunmakers.
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I believe Mr. Niedner was of German descent. In the German language, I before E is pronounced EEE. E bfore I is pronounced EYE. This is at least a rule of thumb, if not an absolute.
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Very well done, sir. (Remember, Germans never say die.) --Bob
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(Remember, Germans never say die.) Just ask 6 million jews, and another 5 million Russians, Slavs and the rest they threw in the ovens, they may disagree!!
Thanks, Bob Too many calibers and not enough time for the working man to hunt with them all.
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(Remember, Germans never say die.) Just ask 6 million jews, and another 5 million Russians, Slavs and the rest they threw in the ovens, they may disagree!!
Thanks, Bob Too many calibers and not enough time for the working man to hunt with them all.
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It was a play on words.
In German, "die" is a word for "the" and is pronounced 'DEE'
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"I" before "E", except after "C".
And I flunked spelling.
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If anyone has a Niedner rifle for sale, or who where i could find one that would be great information
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bobn- Here's a nice one, #100162215 on Guns International: "Niedner/Shelhamer Magnum Mauser 404 Jeffrey- Beautiful genuine single square bridge magnum Mauser action built by Niedner Rifle Co. and stocked by Tom Shelhamer. Perfect bore, interesting pre war Ziess variable power 1X-4X scope. Restored to new condition." It's being sold by Monte Mandarino, and if he's the individual who restored it, then it's likely to be flawless. --Bob
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