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Anyone want to take a stab?
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80% he will go by-by...........
John = Waterfowler at hart along with my late Baydog 9/26/20 .. = = Striving to be turdlike.
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Idiots abound, therefore I'm not sure until after the election. There are no certainties in life and with politics that holds true.
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50/50
Incumbent Presidents don't lose very often, at least in modern history.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence". John Adams
"A dishonest man can always be trusted to be dishonest". Captain Jack Sparrow
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Harry Reid won last time, and that was supposed to be a landslide loss. So...pretty sure Obummer is back for 4 more.
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60/40 he'll be re-elected.
Steve.
"I was a deerhunter long before I was a man." ~Gene Wensel's Come November (2000) "A vote is like a rifle; its usefulness depends upon the character of the user." ~Theodore Roosevelt
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very true. it will likely require an extraordinary effort to dislodge the incumbent.
but, look at Pres. Johnson and Pres. Carter. it has happened before, more or less.
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50/50
It will tell us a lot about the country
That which does not kill us makes us stronger
Friedrich Nietzsche
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I think he is done. Trick now is to wrap up the Senate.
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It ALL depends on what happens with the economy in the next 9 months.
I'm sure govt. agencies and the media will be slinging numbers helpful to Barry - (ir)regardless of fact.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
American by birth; Alaskan by choice. --ironbender
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We all know he should be done. The problem is anytime I'm on a website (other than gun related) that allows reader comments after an article, my faith in the American public drops like a rock.
They walk among us and they vote.
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Obama will fare as well as carter did.
Reagan promised a strong military
Promised a balanced budget (Newt delivered the only balanced budget in 54 years)
Cut taxes
It was a landslide.
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
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What with alla the false eco indicators fixing to spring up who can know?
The end of democracy, and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed incorporations.
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You have to hand it to the Democrats. They don't let facts get in the way of their rhetoric.
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It ALL depends on what happens with the economy in the next 9 months.
I'm sure govt. agencies and the media will be slinging numbers helpful to Barry - (ir)regardless of fact. not to overload the thread, but so long as the unemployment rate clicks downward, interest rates remain low, and the DJ continues to rise, all of that trend points to a benefit for the incumbent. it takss away from contenders who focus on the economics, and adds to the advantage of the Statesmen, if any, who might reside with us. if the economy falters, Katy Bar the door. pls remember, most of us just want a job, to feed our families and pay our fair share of taxes. nothing more.
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Depends entirely on who is running against him. I don't believe for a minute Romney can beat Obama. I can't stand Newt but if he is the R. candidate I think it's 50/50.
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No standing President has ever been re-elect with an unemployment rate over about 7.1 % I believe it is. But if the people want four more years of this great leadership and economy you get the government you voted for.
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"What's your confidence level Obama will NOT get re-elected?" 50/50 L.W.
"Always go straight forward, and if you meet the devil, cut him in two and go between the pieces." (William Sturgis, clipper ship captain, 1830s.)
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Re: unemployment #'s - flawed - skewed as they show how many are ON unemployment, while those whose benefits ran out and are not working, though qualified and trying, fall out.
True Numbers would simply count how many ppl ARE working, subtract from eligible workers.
If the Dow keeps climbing - and it gets BHO re-elected, I guess it's - sell before the dump, during the pump. Hopefully the market is climbing anticipating BHO LEAVING.
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I don't think Obama will accept a defeat. We will count the "hanging chads" or whatever they dream up this time until he can show a win (if it takes 2 yrs., so be it). If that don't work, some emergency(think DOJ) will come up and the election will have to be put on hold for awhile.
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