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There is a Northrop P-61 on display at the National Air and Space Museum Udvar-Hazy Annex at Dulles airport. Smithsonian had one at Silver Hill when I worked there in the later 60s... that was a fun A/C to climb around in... they also had a batch of the old German A/C that was brought back for evaluation after WW 2, and after the AF was done with them, many were donated to the Smithsonian..and were stored out at Silver Hill.... which was Heaven for a high school kid, and Airplane Buff such as myself... And many of them are on display today, including the Fieseler Storch, Dornier Do335, Horton Brothers flying wing, Heinkel He 219 Uhu (Owl) night fighter, FW 190, Messerschmitt 109, Messerschmitt 163, Messerschmitt 262 and, Bachem Viper Natter. ,
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The second world war brithish aircraft look like a Boulton Paul defiant without it's four machine gun turret. But not sure. Some were converted in target towing plane. Dom
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Several to chose from... Hip, Fitter A and B's. 2nd Picture: Hips, more Fitter A & B's and at least 1 Fitter trainer and what looks like a Beagle.
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Soviet litter in the 'Stan?
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Last late summer I was with Fighter Pilot Dad out in the shop yard kibitzing black guns with a couple "civilians" when we all heard a funny jet (military aviation is rare) howl. We all turned and looked, Dad and I immediately turned back to each other and said "Aggressor" while the others just went "Huh." Dust blue camo F-5. First one I have ever seen in Montana, dunno why he was here. Still, kind of a neat little "together" moment -- Dadster ain't getting any younger but he still has eyes.
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Last late summer I was with Fighter Pilot Dad out in the shop yard kibitzing black guns with a couple "civilians" when we all heard a funny jet (military aviation is rare) howl. We all turned and looked, Dad and I immediately turned back to each other and said "Aggressor" while the others just went "Huh." Dust blue camo F-5. First one I have ever seen in Montana, dunno why he was here. Still, kind of a neat little "together" moment -- Dadster ain't getting any younger but he still has eyes. Was with the wife outside Nellis AFB one day. THEY HAVE MIG29's!! Talk about doing some real-world aggressor flying! I looked at the birds and did a double take. REAL Fulcrums! US has Mig29 Fulcrums
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Last late summer I was with Fighter Pilot Dad out in the shop yard kibitzing black guns with a couple "civilians" when we all heard a funny jet (military aviation is rare) howl. We all turned and looked, Dad and I immediately turned back to each other and said "Aggressor" while the others just went "Huh." Dust blue camo F-5. First one I have ever seen in Montana, dunno why he was here. Still, kind of a neat little "together" moment -- Dadster ain't getting any younger but he still has eyes. Was with the wife outside Nellis AFB one day. THEY HAVE MIG29's!! Talk about doing some real-world aggressor flying! I looked at the birds and did a double take. REAL Fulcrums! US has Mig29 Fulcrums The US acquired, tested and flew soviet fighters that were acquired from a variety of sources, including eh Israeli's, Egyptians, Indonesians and probably others. This is documented in the book "Red Eagles - America's Secret Migs" see: http://www.betterworldbooks.com/red-eagles-id-1846033780.aspx . I have a friend (retired USAF fighter pilot that knew several of the USAF Mig pilots. I only learned of his knowledge of the program when I gave him a copy of the book. We also flew some Mig-29's from the Germans after reunification.
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Well, I suppose I hafta. Here's the Combat Sky Pig, or Pilot Sandwich... And the three-ton dog whistle... That odd little emblem above the forward spin strake marked the absolute very last student mission ever flown in this type aircraft. After 40 years!
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Another one that my father has an affinity for... When they pushed the throttles up to the firewall on those two unmuffled Pratt & Whitney's no one slept. That is the beauty of it!
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Rocky - my father-in-law did the initial design of the Cessna 336/337 Skymaster aircraft as a consultant to Cessna (He designed virtually all of Cessna single engine planes in the time between 1948 and 1975, plus others). There are some interesting stories in this!
When he died 2 years ago, we threw out literally bookcases of design and other studies he'd done for Cessna, Beach and Boeing. He still had the initial 336 concept drawing that Cessna gave him in 1958 (the plane first flew in 1961) framed on the wall. He specified a boundary layer air intake for the 336 to cool the rear engine, but Cessna took the cheap way out and just made a circular scoop that did not cool sufficiently. He then did the detailed design for the boundary layer duct that became standard on the 337.
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Well, I suppose I hafta. Here's the Combat Sky Pig, or Pilot Sandwich... And the three-ton dog whistle... That odd little emblem above the forward spin strake marked the absolute very last student mission ever flown in this type aircraft. After 40 years! Rocky, that last photo really grabbed me. I was stationed at CAFB 67-71. I called them Tweety Birds when talking to friends, but never knew anyone else called them that. Sitting in an AF field ambulance about 30 feet from an ideling T-37 for over an hour without ear protection was the beggining of my hearing loss. I was there responding to an inflight emergency. A bird had penetrated the canopy(sp) knocking out the instructor pilot. The student sucessfully landed the plane.
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Well, I suppose I hafta. Here's the Combat Sky Pig, or Pilot Sandwich... Fantastic mission! I never did it like you did, but I did just enough to gain a real appreciation for the term 'fire in the cockpit.'
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Nice, Rocky!
The Tweety Bird insignia on that aircraft is a nice touch.
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I think you could probably ID this since it's already had a passing mention on this thread. The points will be for naming the Air force that utilized it, what they called it, and in which conflict it saw most of its action. I reckon someone'll get it pretty quickly.
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Also just wanna post these 'cos......I dunno, those Eastern bloc designs just look fantastic in my eye.
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Aussie, I like the looks of the newer Sukhoi birds, also- though I don't know the type of that one in your first photo. SU-27,perhaps?
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Aussie, I like the looks of the newer Sukhoi birds, also- though I don't know the type of that one in your first photo. SU-27,perhaps? SU-35
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Aussie, I like the looks of the newer Sukhoi birds, also- though I don't know the type of that one in your first photo. SU-27,perhaps? SU-35 Thank you! Another one of my favorite Sov birds is the MiG-31. That thing is a beast:
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Aussie, I like the looks of the newer Sukhoi birds, also- though I don't know the type of that one in your first photo. SU-27,perhaps? When I hear "Sukhoi" I always think of "ground nail."
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