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I own 3 7s and 3 300s. I shoot the 7s far more.
The lighter recoil is nice. Ballistics are a wash and on game performance is the same.
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BobinNH, sorry about that. The final score I mean!
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For me, the 7mm firing 175 gr. has a little less recoil compared to the 300 firing 180 with like stock designs. I settled on a 338 for a number of years back after hunting/shooting a 300 win for a short stint. My own experience was after shooting a 300 with full house 180 and 200 grain loads, for the difference in recoil, might as well shoot a 338 with 225 gr loads. The 7mm rem mag does with ease, hitting of far targets with high retained velocity/energy without knock'n you out from under your hat and a lot less chance give'n a fella a moon shape cut between the eyes from prone also..... I have uses for all 3 rifles plus my .280 rem. But sure use/shoot the 7mm rem mag ALOT anymore
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Boomwhack and others.... Slightly off topic, but do you find, as I do, that the big fast 33's hit stuff harder and put 'em down quicker than do any 7mm or 30 cal? My 340 Tyrannosaur aka 338/8mmRemMag with Barnes 225gr TTSX's running 3100fps really puts the hurt on stuff. Tends to make an Elks legs all wobbly at impact. That said, my Brother in law put one of my 120gr TTSX handloads (3400fps!) from his 7mm Magnum into a black bear in a tree fall before last, and tht poor bear was WAY dead before he hit the ground. Bangflop and DRT on black bear is hard to do. The close range and that the bullet was probably still travelling 3300fps at impact 'might' have had something to do with that.....
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For those of you that have hunted with these cartridges, did you notice a difference in their performance on game at all? Sometimes they run and someimes DRT depending on contact with the spine. Same story with either caliber.
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Interesting thread. For all the people that use the 7mm more, I find it curious that in the classifieds, a 7mm RM will sit while 30-06's, 300 WM, and 388's will sell all around the good old 7mm. Seen that in many stores up here as well. Personally I fall into the category that I doubt the animal will know the difference but there is no room in my safe for a 7mm.
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. . . but there is no room in my safe for a 7mm. There is always room for one of each (300 Win Mag and 7mm Rem Mag) in my safe. Both are very nice and accurate rifles. One is a Steyr SBS Forester and the other is a Sako AV. Hard to pick a favorite.
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Interesting thread. For all the people that use the 7mm more, I find it curious that in the classifieds, a 7mm RM will sit while 30-06's, 300 WM, and 388's will sell all around the good old 7mm. Seen that in many stores up here as well. Personally I fall into the category that I doubt the animal will know the difference but there is no room in my safe for a 7mm. The market is saturated with 7RM rifles, and it's not because they're not popular or well-liked...
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[quote=Cariboujack a 7mm RM will sit while 30-06's, 300 WM, and 388's will sell [/quote] Larger calibers kicks more, and makes the user feel like he is trying harder, who doesn't want to try harder? (grinning).
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BobinNH, sorry about that. The final score I mean! superT don't worry. The Pats had their chances and didn't pull it over....C'est La Vie!
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Have a 7 Rem Mag, 7 RUM, 300 WSM, and two 300 Win Mags...redundancy or adequate backup???
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Have a 7 Rem Mag, 7 RUM, 300 WSM, and two 300 Win Mags...redundancy or adequate backup??? Barely adequate backup!
This is a shooting forum, there is no place here for logic.
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Heck why limit yourself to one rifle,buy one of each.
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There is nothing the 300 Win can do better except bruise you or bring about a flinch quicker. Period. BTDT... If things you seek can seek you back then I suggest going up the caliber ladder more than one rung..... JMO
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..redundancy or adequate backup??? Both! I see a bit of redundancy as a good thing. I mean, a guy might need a spare...
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Have a 7 Rem Mag, 7 RUM, 300 WSM, and two 300 Win Mags...redundancy or adequate backup??? Wow, I was starting think it was silly of wanting to add a 338 Win Mag or 280 Rem to my 30-06, 7 Rem Mag, and 300 Win Mag. Glad I'm not the only one with deep backup. Perhaps I should just get both...
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Have a 7 Rem Mag, 7 RUM, 300 WSM, and two 300 Win Mags...redundancy or adequate backup??? Barely adequate backup! Yep, I see some holes in there....
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Boomwhack and others.... Slightly off topic, but do you find, as I do, that the big fast 33's hit stuff harder and put 'em down quicker than do any 7mm or 30 cal? My 340 Tyrannosaur aka 338/8mmRemMag with Barnes 225gr TTSX's running 3100fps really puts the hurt on stuff. Tends to make an Elks legs all wobbly at impact. That said, my Brother in law put one of my 120gr TTSX handloads (3400fps!) from his 7mm Magnum into a black bear in a tree fall before last, and tht poor bear was WAY dead before he hit the ground. Bangflop and DRT on black bear is hard to do. The close range and that the bullet was probably still travelling 3300fps at impact 'might' have had something to do with that..... Just thinking about that 340 tyrannasour makes my legs all wobbly....
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Boomwhack and others.... Slightly off topic, but do you find, as I do, that the big fast 33's hit stuff harder and put 'em down quicker than do any 7mm or 30 cal? My 340 Tyrannosaur aka 338/8mmRemMag with Barnes 225gr TTSX's running 3100fps really puts the hurt on stuff. Tends to make an Elks legs all wobbly at impact. That said, my Brother in law put one of my 120gr TTSX handloads (3400fps!) from his 7mm Magnum into a black bear in a tree fall before last, and tht poor bear was WAY dead before he hit the ground. Bangflop and DRT on black bear is hard to do. The close range and that the bullet was probably still travelling 3300fps at impact 'might' have had something to do with that..... The ones that have dropped right there mostly were from breaking important structural bones such as hips, yes hips... 'If you hunt elk in timber you will soon figger this out' shoulders, spines and or brain pans. There has been few exceptions.. I had a med. sized bull elk take a 225 partition from my 338 win at 2860 fps full broadside shot at 70 yards, steam blew from both sides and not even quiver, stood there a bit and decide to stumble off to keel over 15 yards later. Did not drop, and took one hell of a lot of energy and a big bullet with no more than one broke rib on bullet entry. Not dropped but figgered I would make some kind of comparison Wife wacked a nice fat cow a few years later with the 45-70. Around fifty yards the 350 gr. hornady round nose at 1986fps dropped her DRT. with a little kicking of one hind leg. Shot placement was darn near exact as the med bull with the .338. Another med. sized bull took a 160 gr speer spitzer 2800fps from my .280 at 250 yards facing me head on, dropping him so fast it was like he vanished... He stood back up for a bit and my partner to the side of me says, ya gunna shoot him again?? I did shoot again but after he explained that was NOT a different bull like I thought. First Shot perfectly centered in chest above the brisket broke no bone, the bullet lost in the stomach/intestines. Second whistled threw the slats and already destroyed vitals. A spike caught me flat footed and 20 yards in an opening, threw up the .280 fired and he was down, doing the die'n chicken. Hit him off to his right side, between the chest and shoulder ruining only one lung and... here is the kicker, busting his pelvis!!! the reason he dropped. That 160 gr. nosler partition made it threw around four feet of elk THEN busted bone. Recovered bullet was just the shank, front half sheared off from the cannilure 'factory second bullets'. Im in belief premium bullets level the playing field from smaller bore vs. large bore.... Not to go to far off topic or hyjack the tread
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Im in belief premium bullets level the playing field from smaller bore vs. large bore.... Not to go to far off topic or hyjack the tread Agreed....been true at least since guys started shooting animals with Partitions and,a bit later,Bitterroots. Boomwhack good post!
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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