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7 what.... LOL...... 270 this month
Taking my rifle for a walk
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Is this a joke? A 7mm08 is 10x the gun a 270 has no good use to me when you are better off with a 30-06. kbruce, tell me more! I can't wait!You have used all three to take a lot of game,huh?
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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7 what.... LOL...... 270 this month Equal opportunity. I have a 7RM, the .270 is just too boringly efficient for me... DF
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7mm-08 for me all the way. No doubt the 270 has a bigger engine and can push a 150 faster. There is a noticable jump in recoil and blast with that bigger engine. If you need it, and feel more comfortable with it, rock on. Personally, I'm pretty comfortable with the 7-08. Gets it done for our family. bludog
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I'm pretty comfortable with the 7-08. Gets it done for our family. That's the bottom line, what works for you and yours. I had a 7-08, a 700C. Beautiful gun, shot great, but I traded it for something I thought I needed more. I haven't replaced it with another, but it's not like I don't have a safe full of equivalent firepower. DF
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This thread was made to provoke this talk. Not that I care. By the way, 25-08 vs 27-08??? What one would be better? A 26-08
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7mm-08 for me all the way. No doubt the 270 has a bigger engine and can push a 150 faster. There is a noticable jump in recoil and blast with that bigger engine. If you need it, and feel more comfortable with it, rock on. Personally, I'm pretty comfortable with the 7-08. Gets it done for our family. bludog Hey blu, Don't you have a 7-08AI? What kind of velocity difference you see vs the standard, 100 fps?
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Guessing 50-75 at same pressure in 22-24"
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I really like both, but I've got to give the edge to the 7mm-08.
To me, the 7-08 performs a lot closer to 270 levels than the significantly milder recoil and muzzle blast says it should, and the bullet options help make up even more ground in favor of the little 7.
I tend to shoot pretty light rifles, and while a 270 isn't at all unpleasant to shoot, there's something about the increased muzzle blast and recoil levels in 270/280 vs something in the 25-06/7mm-08 ballpark that seems pretty noticeable to me.
With the bullets & powders we can run today, I just really enjoy a 7-08 and have had stellar performance - absolutely without exception - out of the ones I own.
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I really like both, but I've got to give the edge to the 7mm-08.
To me, the 7-08 performs a lot closer to 270 levels than the significantly milder recoil and muzzle blast says it should, and the bullet options help make up even more ground in favor of the little 7.
I tend to shoot pretty light rifles, and while a 270 isn't at all unpleasant to shoot, there's something about the increased muzzle blast and recoil levels in 270/280 vs something in the 25-06/7mm-08 ballpark that seems pretty noticeable to me.
With the bullets & powders we can run today, I just really enjoy a 7-08 and have had stellar performance - absolutely without exception - out of the ones I own.
DJ This post is entirely too rational for this place......
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I better shut it down for the evening before I get my "rifle looney" card revoked!
Grin...
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Look at the available bullets in .284 vs. .277 and you will have your answer. Hint. Thank me later. (Sorry, I couldn't help myself) this came up a few years ago and I remember doing the research and found only a couple more bullets available in 284 as compared to 277 between 120 and 160 grs. It may be somewhat different today but if someone wants to do the research I think you'd be surprised.
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Look at the available bullets in .284 vs. .277 and you will have your answer. Hint. Thank me later. (Sorry, I couldn't help myself) this came up a few years ago and I remember doing the research and found only a couple more bullets available in 284 as compared to 277 between 120 and 160 grs. It may be somewhat different today but if someone wants to do the research I think you'd be surprised. I think Rembo may be right...or getting there....the only difference is that 7mm's have always had faster twists than 270, due to military heritage and long, heavy bullets.Most 270's have 10 twists,because that's how it started out (unless you built a barrel with a faster twist). Berger and Matrix(?)are now making high BC bullets in 270. The 7mm bullet advantage is old news, maybe no longer applies....not that it ever really did for years anyway.There isn't a dimes worth of difference in anything up to 150 gr or so between the two calibers.The real 7mm advantage starts at about 160 gr.
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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[Hey blu,
Don't you have a 7-08AI? What kind of velocity difference you see vs the standard, 100 fps?[/quote]
Yes, my wife shoots a 7-08ai. If you really wanted to hotrod it, you could get 100+ fps additional. I have found that it is very comfortable with a 50 fps gain. Hers has a 24" fluted barrel and shoots 120 gr TTSX around 3180 fps with 49.0 gr 2000MR. I loaded a 140 TSX at about 2940 fps for her elk hunt in 2009 which worked great at 318 yards. Both of these loads were a couple grains below any pressure signs which in this gun was a slightly cratered primer. Great, fun cartridge, not quite a 284 win/280 rem but just enough more than a standard 7-08 to make it noticable. bludog
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