Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters Rick Jamison personna no grata?

I have plenty of clues. One of them is that too many dimwits equate criticism of Jameson with supporting what Winchester did.

Wait a minute - are you saying that a person knows his own thoughts and what he is saying better than someone else does?

I would never be so bold. Especially in a "Jameson" thread.

As I understand it, That's why so many guns in the Old west were chambered for the 44-40, 38-40, and 44S&W. Colt wouldn't allow other gun makers to chamber their 45 Colt cartridge.

I also find it interesting that Winchester has a history of disagreements with gun designers and cartridge designers. IIRC, didn't Winchester try to s crew John Browning too? That's why he stopped selling them designs and went out on his own.

Not exactly so, but they refused to pay him royalties on each rifle sold. Only a fixed sum for the brevet and design. He left went to Europe, in Li�ge/Herstal Fabrique Nationale. The rest is history. Rifle was the Auto 5.

FN, JM and Remington made an agreement, Remington made it in the US of A...Winchester spent lot of time and money to come back with a design and never really succeeded.

Bean counter can, sometime, be incredible!

Dom

What intrigues me is how so many seem to bash certain gunwriters and I have seen so many saying they don't give a damn what Boddington says and now I guess it is Jamisons turn to get the shaft on an internet forum...

Easy to do when someone can't or won't answer..I see why only a small/very small proportion of them even post on the net..They like have two choices,argue there case or just call you names and not answer.

How can anyone judge Rick without knowing everything that went down as a fact????Makes no sense other than chest thumping on a keyboard.

Jayco

It was not just a "bean counter" who refused John Brownings demands for royalties, it was WG Bennett, who owned Winchester at the time. Even though they had made millions off of Browning's designs up to that point, the greedy bastard refused and Browning went straight to Remington. Marcelous Hartley, the Rem president had a heart attack before Browning could meet with him, so Browning sailed to Belgium to talk to FN.The rest is history.

And Winchester never had a Semi Auto Shotgun that was long lived or sold as well as the Browning A-5 since that time. Serves them right.

My experience in Civil Lawsuits is unless either Party to the Case REALLY wants to go to Trial then the two Parties will Settle.

Neither side will completely like the outcome but both Parties can live with the agreed compromise.

Hi Jim,

I know it was Bennett who decided but it's not because you're boss that you can't be bean counter too...
In this deal Bennett was totaly absurd, unbelievely dumb!!

Dom

Intellectual Property?

What's with all the "fuss & dust" at this point in time anyway? Time has shown that the WSM line of cartridges are about as dead as a 10 gauge shot rabbit! Who really cares about the WSM's other than someone who bought one? Most aren't even made anymore!
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I liked R. Jamison's writings aand articles better than most any of the other so-called gun writers and would like to see him back in print, too! I wish some of the current ones would just "go away".
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Without more solid evidence and information, this sounds like a bunch of old women gabbing at a hen party about juicy gossip with no basis behind it; it's a waste of time and too much speculation.

Pretty much how I feel about it. I have no irons in this fire, no WSMs, RSAUMs, RCMs or any other similar cartridges. Don't need 'em for what I hunt.

Most all of his articles were pretty good technically, from what I recall of them, and I enjoyed his writing style (especially when writing about coyote hunting).

If the WSM calibers were dead as you claim there would be little demand for the ammo. One only needs to look at the offerings of major ammo manufactures (other than Winchester) to know there must be a lot of people using WSM cartridges. For example, in their 2012 catalog Federal offers 24 different cartridges for these three calibers: .270 WSM, 7mm WSM, and .300 WSM. That's twice as many cartridges as they offer in RUM and Weatherby Mag calibers combined.

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I don't believe that the shooting community benefits from the ostracism.