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We're not doing someones "term paper" or thesis here, are we?

definitely not mine.

How will we fare vs. the rest of the world?

The last economy left standing after all the collapses will be relatively stronger than the others. In absolute terms, we will be worse off economically but in relative terms we may actually gain position.

Europe will collapse, with the exception of Germany and Great Britain. Asia will mostly collapse. Everybody fears China, but most fail to realize that although their nation is financially sound, their provinces are not and as a whole they are in a precarious position.

We'll adjust.

Bingo!
Concise and to the point.

Another right on observation, we will do what is needed to do, life is what you make it.

With respect to our monetary policy, we can't keep printing fiat money to pay off debt. We are spending 120% of GDP and borrowing 42 cents of every dollar from the Chinese. Keeping the Fed. Fund Rate at .25% til the end of 2014 as Bernanke has said tells investors and businesses that he doesn't see any business growth for 2 1/2 years! The recovery of the very important housing industry is many years off and will be pushed back further if these phony home mortgage re-financing allow to happen. They keep pushing back the day of reckoning.

But what may become the wildcard in Obama's future will be the price of gasoline. That will become very difficult to fight against. The tentacles of negative influence in the economy will snowball against the great O.

This is far too difficult to predict as there are so many factors at play. Economic collapses have a tendency to cause war to break out as demagogues tend to rise to the surface. If you want to argue the "last man standing" angle, that is fine.

You may live in loony land but I pretty much agree BW. I haven't decided if "O" is mis-guided or intention-guided but the result so far is one of the worst in our history in loss of inalienable rights and in flagrant law breaking. O-care will be a landmark law-breaker, anti-constitutional, health care limiting disaster if not repealed.

Aside from that, with a severe depression type scenario which might be the least serious one, I would think commodities such as drinking water, dry food goods, and fuel would be more valuable in some areas than cash. Try eating a gold nugget when the store shelves are empty.

And, yes, Steve NO's experience during Katrina was very sobering. It showed how quick a natural disaster, a nuke or dirty bomb, or political upheaval could thrust you into
Third world nation survival mode.

Other than being a terse one liner, it doesn't address the issue.

Perhaps Germaine to the topic(s) at hand is Pat Buchannons's recent book, Suicide of a Superpower; I just downloaded it.

heard that!

and I'm no doom and gloomer here, even though I've purchased some "insurance" over the years.


history does repeat or at least rhymes

I truly believe the WWII vets were our "greatest generation" and the reason "why" I believe they were so great and could face the horrors of combat and a large majority of them come back and build successful and productive lives is because they were forged in fire. The fire of hard times called the Depression in which they were raised.

we're a spoiled lot, me included and I've loved every minute of it! TV's in every room, more clothes and food than we know what to do with, so we've wasted both in abundance, cars and toys out the ying yang, vacations, my lord but we've lived a life of abundance!

we don't need most of those things, but we want them, it keeps the dream alive.


tough times make tough folks, easy times make easy folks


it's as simple as that

not every season can be growing season, whether plant life or the development of mankind or an economy

a purge of excess is good for the soul if not always for the body.


our poor people are fat and have cell phones.


likes some have said here, perhaps it will never come, hard times, caused by either natural or man made disaster. (talk about wearing the tinfoil, lmao)


it don't scare me, whatever comes, I'll do my best, tis all I know how to do with whatever resources I have to work with.

so while I have a bit of insurance, I may not have enough or I may be over insured, no way to tell for certain!

and all the insurance in the world don't do you a bit of good if you get run over by a Mac truck tomorrow.

I'm going to live large, till that's no longer a possibility, and then I'm just going to live however I can to the best of my ability, and then I'm gonna die, regardless of what I do in this world. OMG tell me it ain't so Scott we ain't really gonna die....are we?

I'm gonna hope if we do go through tough times ever that it will be good for those that survive whether through smarts, ingenuity, cunning, luck or preparedness or some combo of the above.

I'm not going to live my life in fear, I control what I can, and leave the rest in God's hands. May his will be done, but it would surprise me none if he decided we needed a good spanking!

Sure, now ya tell us... lol

Look, people, if this does spiral down in a couple years whether O is in or not, there is a very real chance of a breakdown in civil authority.
We all know that the "takers" are there to accept their federal handouts. If these can no longer be made, these "takers" can quickly turn on the government that feeds them. This could give rise to a backlash in society where some of the producers get pizzed off enough and dole out a little justice.
If you don't believe me, turn on the BBC an watch the street riots in Athens.

The most important thing to stave off these wild thoughts is to replace O with whoever the GOP nominee is.
That is why all these debates here that this one has this skeleton and that one did that, etc. etc. etc. is of no significance to me whatsoever.

You've all heard the clever statement: "Well I'm not holding my nose ever again". I said that too after the McCain debacle.
But this is different. This isn't your normal DFL party. This is anything that we have had in the past. Because of the serious consequences of "4 more", I will vote and campaign for whoever the nominee is.

I would rather "hold my nose" than continue to "grab my ankles" the rest of my life.

You do realize how often your posts begin like this?

he already knows everything there is to know


just ask him


and if he's the least bit uncertain, well he has his people! lmao



all those voices in his head! alla those people! and they're all his!

Oh brother!

Its quite evident that Jeff O suffers from a severe lack of world history understanding. Most likely aggravated by a life of public education where a) its not taught and b)its re-written. If he were to have any real grasp of reality he would know that its the liberal left who turns on the masses and evokes things like martial law and violence against its people.

Unfortunately, I believe you are mostly correct.

+1 Anyone who's been keeping his eyes open these last few decades will be amazed to pick up a copy of an unabridged edition of Gibbon's Decline and Fall and just start reading. In our present contexts, it's a real page turner.