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You are against strong famies?!
J/K
I'm listening to what the good folk of the Fire say; there's much we all agree about, and I appreciate and give thought to everything I read.
But, I still think the militant religious right is the biggest threat to Constitutional governance in the event of a general societal meltdown. They are numerous, excitable, united, armed and have a violent lunatic fringe.
That's just a statement of fact. Now... that's not to say that the extreme left is better. [bleep], push comes to shove, the redneck side of my hairy white ass might win out over the hippie side. An armed, militant socialist revolution? [bleep] that noise. I'm in the other trench. If the "militant religious right" was so unified we wouldn't have the President that we currently do nor would we have a lot of the problems that most of us currently bittch about. On the "right" you have militants that aren't so religious and religionists that aren't very militant. You also have a helluva lot of talk compared to some who are seemingly on "the other side" and who immediately take action. (OWS comes immediately to-mind.) I don't have a problem with some of the "hippies" that you describe who like all their freedoms. I may disagree with them but as long as they are not forcing me nor getting too harsh with propaganda wanting my kids to follow their paths, I am cool with letting them go their merry way. There are many "hippies" though, like the group on Doomsday Preppers, who you could see, just hated guns. I have to think they acted on this hate through their votes etc. People who act on their hatred of others' freedom is where I draw the line because it affects me and mine. As to the "strong families" implications...no, I don't want to give up my "big" house in favor of a two-room log cabin where everybody is in on nearly every occurrence. I think that although there may be some advantages to such a setup, that privacy for family members is not all bad. A lot to argue both ways there and the bottom-line is that I don't want to be forced into austerity by either the government or simple economic circumstance.
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But, I still think the militant religious right is the biggest threat to Constitutional governance in the event of a general societal meltdown. That's because you are an anti-God bigot who requires created fear and hate to justify your non-belief and prejudice. It's sad really.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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"Be sure you're right. Then go ahead." Fess Parker as Davy Crockett
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You all live simply so that I may simply live large.
What a bunch or whiners and crybabies. I'm hoarding FRNs.
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Didn't read this whole string and don't intend to.
It's a damn good thing that most Americans don't think like the bunch of doom and gloomsters around here. Fortunately they are in a small, very small minority otherwise we would be in one hell of a mess.
Things are bad but have been worse, a lot worse. Instead of pissin and moaning position yourself to take advantage of the coming BOOM times.
Mr. Spano- I am curious to know when you think the above BOOM times might begin. I am of the thought that with the baby boomers approaching retirement massively in debt and with little retirement savings our consumer based economy is going to go through an extended period of flat to slow growth. The writing is on the wall. Our largest demographic group will soon come to the realization that .gov is not going to fund their retirements. The boomers are gonna go austerity on us. The credit card and subprime fueled spending binge of the aughts is going to have to be unwound and paid off during the teens. The next boom might be a decade away. What do your people think?
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Short answer, Crash and Burn.
Crash because when the economy hits true bottom and our credit rating is gone those who receive unearned entitlements will riot. Most of these people have been taught that they are owed something due to some abstract injustice from the distant past. Conflict based not only on class, but on race.
Those in power will not dare identify the rioters as the evil doers. They will fear being called racist and say they just want justice. You defending yourself will be the evil one, the oppressor, the racist, the white devil. They will disarm everyone and focus on what they call "domestic terrorist groups" which will be simply people who band together for self protection.
Homeland security will live up to its potential, which is simply an American version of the SS. The Constitution will be suspended and martial law put in place. People who make statements or otherwise resist the authorities will be arrested and held without any Habeas corpus. A few at first, just so the public gets used to it, then in mass.
Now that the focus is on internal strife and the American who defends liberty identified as the enemy, and the focus put on them, the doors to the outside will be undefended. Those long time enemies that have been built up by our purchase of oil from them will then strike freely. They will try to take down "The great satan" while we are at our weakest.
China and Russia will come out of being so deep in the background in the clandestine assault on America and be more open. Our great enemy the United Nations will authorize "peace Keeping" in the U.S. and we will see Chinese and other forces on our soil. This also at the behest of our officials.
That pain, that labor, is the birth of the new world order. Then those who resisted, who the NWO identifies as a threat, will be exterminated.
The older I become the more I am convinced that the voice of honor in a man's heart is the voice of GOD.
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I am afraid you are right crosshair. Just remember to "make them pay" when they come. Don't store everything in one spot. Spread it out in at lease four or more locations. STAY READY
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What a bunch or whiners and crybabies. I'm hoarding FRNs.
Good luck with that. I recommend you lock your entire nest egg into a good US Government bond fund.
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Short question,..
If America doesn't pull out of its spending/debt situation, what's the prognosis?
By that, I mean, what will happen, in your opinion?
In the short term , I see inflation coming back big time. It's already starting now, but will pick up speed thru 2012. Do not put any $ into CD's
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much" Teddy Roosevelt
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Perhaps "boom" was too strong a word. Let me revise that to say "improvement in the business cycle". This is a natural occurrence that happens at the close of every downturn. The last recession ended in June or July of 2009.
The recovery has been sluggish to say the least, nevertheless it has been and continues to be a recovery. In my opinion, barring exigent circumstances, the economy will heat up over the Spring and Summer seasons and most likely extend into the Fall season.
It is in the great interest of all incumbent politicians to keep this recovery moving and, indeed to spur it along before the election. After the election, if BHO wins all bets are off. However if Romney wins I would predict a boom economy for the next four years. Look for unemployment to drop to the 5%-6% range. Interest rates will rise as the Fed raise interest rates to stifle inflation and prevent overheating of the economy.
Is the outlook rosy for everyone? No. Many will see no opportunity and continue to cling to the guns and ammo and dwell in the backwoods of despair. However, for those prescient enough to seize the opportunities that an improving economy presents there is money to be made.
The above are my thoughts and opinions presented in a calm and rational manner. I would appreciate responses in the same vein.
www.paracay.comIt's better to live rich than die rich. Live simply so that I may simply live large.
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The economy will pick up substantially after the election regardless of who wins. Right now, major industry is sitting on piles of cash watching and hoping and doing what it can to unseat Obama, but after the election, they will not be able to hold out much longer no matter who wins. When they cave, rehiring will commence in earnest and the recovery will accelerate.
This might even begin before the election if industry, as a whole, sees an Obama win as inevitable, because there will be competitive advantages to taking off first and beating the competition.
To some extent, sitting on piles of cash can also be a bit dangerous as it entices hostile buy-outs. Something that may see a big uptick this summer.
Save an elk, shoot a cow.
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IOW's happy days are here again!
cool
I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
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What a bunch or whiners and crybabies. I'm hoarding FRNs.
Good luck with that. I recommend you lock your entire nest egg into a good US Government bond fund. I would never put my entire nest egg into any one investment. Remember the fools who did that with some guy named Bernie? I do have a position in a Government bond fund.
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Short question,..
If America doesn't pull out of its spending/debt situation, what's the prognosis?
By that, I mean, what will happen, in your opinion?
In the short term , I see inflation coming back big time. It's already starting now, but will pick up speed thru 2012. Do not put any $ into CD's In an inflationary environment a ladder of short term CDs is a good bet.
www.paracay.comIt's better to live rich than die rich. Live simply so that I may simply live large.
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IOW's happy days are here again!
cool Not for Obama or his fans - after all, they are out to destroy America and that cause can't be helped by a growing economy. Grim days ahead indeed, for those who love the big O.
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from God's lips to your ears Brent
even cooler
amen
I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
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The economy will pick up substantially after the election regardless of who wins. Right now, major industry is sitting on piles of cash watching and hoping and doing what it can to unseat Obama, but after the election, they will not be able to hold out much longer no matter who wins. When they cave, rehiring will commence in earnest and the recovery will accelerate.
This might even begin before the election if industry, as a whole, sees an Obama win as inevitable, because there will be competitive advantages to taking off first and beating the competition.
To some extent, sitting on piles of cash can also be a bit dangerous as it entices hostile buy-outs. Something that may see a big uptick this summer.
This is a good analysis of the present situation. Yes, corporations are cash heavy and are unwilling to cut loose because of the uncertain regulatory environment. However there is another and perhaps better reason for hoarding cash: because of high unemployment there is no "pent up" demand for product so why produce just to fill warehouses? There is excess capacity and excess cash. What is needed is a sparkplug to ignite demand.
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IOW's happy days are here again!
cool Not for Obama or his fans - after all, they are out to destroy America and that cause can't be helped by a growing economy. Grim days ahead indeed, for those who love the big O. The best possible scenario for BHO's reelection and the reelection of incumbents is an improving economy.
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...In an inflationary environment a ladder of short term CDs is a good bet. Gold is better.
"There's more to optics than meets the eye."--anon
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IOW's happy days are here again!
cool Not for Obama or his fans - after all, they are out to destroy America and that cause can't be helped by a growing economy. Grim days ahead indeed, for those who love the big O. Brent, does this mean two things: You will vote this time and it won't be for obama?
The things that come to those that wait may be the things left by those who got there first.
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