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I agree, the new trucks are very ugly........ all of them.
Buy American, they are more than good enough. I won't buy a GM anymore. I daily drove my 87 Ford for 20 years, now I have a 2007 F-150. 5.4L, 2wd, I can get 20 highway. No problems worth mentioning.
My first truck was a used 70 Toyota Hi-Lux. Toyota's etc. are good....... but not good enough for me to consider one again.
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I buy GM full size for my business, I need 3/4 and 1 tons. Otherwise it would be 15 Tundras outside my shop.
How anyone can say GM's ride well is beyond me. Even the few 1500's I have ride like the proverbial log truck.
You just acknowledged your experience is with 3/4 and 1 ton Heavy Duty GM's and presumably some work truck 1500's, then you try to compare the ride quality? I guarantee you couldn't tell the difference, with a blind fold on, between a crew cab Sierra SLT etc., and a comparably equipped Tundra, if I put a gun to your head. Compare a Tacoma and a Sierra and even blind folded, it'll be an easy choice, though.
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If I were to buy a new truck, it would look an awful lot loke that. Minus the training wheels, of course.  (I don't tow a fifth wheel.) Is it just me?
Damn I hate the looks of all the new pick ups.
Bulges, boxy looking, plastic everywhere.
I may have to buy a new one soon and am trying to cope with the new reality.
I drive A LOT.
Mileage and reliability are going to be my top criteria in finding a new ride.
I don't haul heavy trailers anymore, I'm going to retire soon and though I've liked full sized pickups most of my life, I am willing to downsize.
Silverado 1500?
F-150?
Or a rice burner?
Toyota Tacoma 4 door?
If you guys had to start over what would it be? This ain't ugly to me: ![[Linked Image]](http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q38/gunsmithlc/Xmas/DSC_3466.jpg) And if I were to 'start over', I'd buy it's twin...
This is a shooting forum, there is no place here for logic.
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I like most of the new ones. Dodge Ram is the nicest looking right now, then Ford f-150, Tacoma, Tundra. I agree with that, don't care for the looks of the boxes on the Fords really. I've never been a Chevy/GMC fan, but used to think their trucks looked nice. Now they just look like pop can aluminum with a few bends (very cheap looking)
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In 2006 I bought a new Tundra... The cheapest built truck I have ever owned. By the time it had 30,000 miles on it the seats were wore out and the tailgate was caved in, from loading a 500lb motorcycle in the bed. I now own a 2011 Ford F150 that gets 19 to 20 around town and around 24 on the road, as long as I keep it under 70. I can also haul a motorcycle in the bed without it caving in.
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Since you started it, I'm gonna help you! Starting with Government Motors (GM) GM to recall nearly 50000 GM recalls more than 6000 vans, SUVs Saturn Recalls 254000 GM recalls 20,000 minivans for brakes GM Recalls 50000 Crossover SUVs GM Recalls 10000 Full-Size Pickups General Motors Co. (GM) is recalling 6159 GM RECALL: LIST OF 1.5M VEHICLESGeneral Motors has announced a recall of approximately 570000 I could go on and on and on, with GM, but I think you get the picture Now for some Ford 2013 FORD recall lookup. *Yeah, they already got them* 2012 FORD recall lookup. 2011 FORD recall lookup. 2010 FORD recall lookup. 2009 FORD recall lookup. 2008 FORD recall lookup. 2007 FORD recall lookup. 2006 FORD recall lookup. 2005 FORD recall lookup. 2004 FORD recall lookup. 2003 FORD recall lookup. 2002 FORD recall lookup. 2001 FORD recall lookup. 2000 FORD recall lookup. 1999 FORD recall lookup. 1998 FORD recall lookup. 1997 FORD recall lookup. 1996 FORD recall lookup. 1995 FORD recall lookup. 1994 FORD recall lookup. 1993 FORD recall lookup. 1992 FORD recall lookup. 1991 FORD recall lookup. 1990 FORD recall lookup. 1989 FORD recall lookup. 1988 FORD recall lookup. 1987 FORD recall lookup. 1986 FORD recall lookup. 1985 FORD recall lookup. 1984 FORD recall lookup. 1983 FORD recall lookup. 1982 FORD recall lookup. 1981 FORD recall lookup. 1980 FORD recall lookup. 1979 FORD recall lookup. 1978 FORD recall lookup. 1977 FORD recall lookup. 1976 FORD recall lookup. 1975 FORD recall lookup. 1974 FORD recall lookup. 1973 FORD recall lookup. 1972 FORD recall lookup. 1971 FORD recall lookup. 1970 FORD recall lookup. 1969 FORD recall lookup. 1968 FORD recall lookup. 1967 FORD recall lookup. 1966 FORD recall lookup. 1965 FORD recall lookup. I dont know how many pages there are of Ford recalls, so I just listed the years. 119K Chrylser 300s, Dodge Chargers Chrysler Recalling Roughly 750000 I could have found more, but I got tired of doing the copy/paste thing. Anytime you need more help, just let me know!
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If I were buying new I would seriously be considering the Chevy 1500 with the 6.2L 400+ HP engine. The new 2500 is redesigned and from what I have read is a darn fine truck if such capacity is needed.
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Drove a 2004 GMC Sierra 2500HD until this past Friday. Biggest POS on the road.
Looked for a 4 door Tacoma but could not find anything I could even come close to affording.
Ended up with a 2011 F-150 with 10K on it. We shall see how it holds up.
My mechanic is wearing black and trying to figure out how to pay his kid's college bill. Hopefully it stays that way.
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You guys driving Toyota's and Nissan's make me sick. I know I'm biased living in Detroit area, but geez I have a 2002 z71 sitting in my driveway,I bought it thinking I was supporting my fellow Americans, When I found out it was made in Mexico with Chinese parts, Well,You have no Idea how pissed I was. BY coincidence, it happens to likely to be the most troublesome rusted POS I have ever owned, Last week was power window regulators, this week right front bearing. As I have fixed many of these issue's myself, I just laugh when Dealership and supply houses recommend OEM parts, In my repairs I have seen the crap parts GM used to build these vehicles. Simple things like the tailgate cables, an immediate recall back in 02-04 because the cables were snapping from just lowering the tailgate, I replaced the window regulator last week, GM's ideas inside that door were as cheap as possible, The speakers were mounted on the thinnest cheapest support I have ever seen, naturally the supports were broke and the speakers were hanging inside the door by their wires. Lifelong GM fan here, but things are really, really, messed up, with the entire Auto industry in general. 35k for a vehicle built in Mexico with Chinese crap parts, Explain that to me please......... Last line---unions
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I don't think i could ever be convinced to buy another G.M. product. Forgetting, the government, union, envovlement. I had a s10blazer, at 50k transmission was squirting oil and caused a fire. Traded it in on a 4x4chevy pickup. At 50k, guess what, transmission caused engine fire. That truck had just about everything break on it. What really got me was a G.M. unannounced recall on paint peeling. In other words you had to know about it. About three weeks in a garage and they gave me a new paint job. It loved the garage more than it did me. Being stupid, i was looking for a new truck and looked at a chevy. The truck had a idiot light measuring transmission temps. Salesman told me it was an abundance of caution. Yeah right. I then bought a 98dodge 3/4ton 4x4diesel, which has been the best truck i ever owned. Except the nissan 4x4 the mexicans wanted for their import/export business.
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Ugly is as ugly does.... ![[Linked Image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/FOsteology/Misc/Raptor.jpg)
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We bought a 2011 Dodge 1500 SLT QC 4x4 for my wife last fall. The 5.7 Hemi is getting 16-17 mixed city/hwy and 20MPG hi-way for us. with all the rebates we paid under $27k for it which was $8k-$9k cheaper than Toyota or Ford at the time. They were all nice trucks but an extra $9k in the pocket was the decision maker for us.
I have had good luck with my 2002 Dodge 3500 diesel, with 78k on the clock I'll be keeping it for a while longer.
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Traded this one one a 2009 F-150 ![[Linked Image]](http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/W7ACT/Vehicles/DSC00011.jpg) for this one about two months ago a 2011 F-150 ![[Linked Image]](http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/W7ACT/Vehicles/492012015.jpg)
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You guys driving Toyota's and Nissan's make me sick. I know I'm biased living in Detroit area, but geez Tundras are manufactured in San Antonio, Texas. Tacomas are built in Fremont, California. GM trucks are built in Flint and Indiana. Ford trucks are built in Kansas City and Louisville Nissan trucks are built in Tennessee and Mississippi. Now what?
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I will take reliability over looks any day.
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...and most for most people, buying a new truck is not like buying underwear, it's a major investment. They just can't afford to throw that much money away on inferior products.
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I would look for a 'new' F150 with about 12K miles on it. Why would you want to buy a worn out truck? 
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You guys driving Toyota's and Nissan's make me sick. I know I'm biased living in Detroit area, but geez Tundras are manufactured in San Antonio, Texas. Tacomas are built in Fremont, California. GM trucks are built in Flint and Indiana. Ford trucks are built in Kansas City and Louisville Nissan trucks are built in Tennessee and Mississippi. Now what? Tacomas are now made in Mexico I believe it was the 2011 model year. They had to close the Fremont plant because Gubermint motors [bleep] up and had to be saved. Waiting intently on Hyundai Large truck and whether Toyo makes a diesel tacoma to be sold in the states
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Unless you need to tow a lot, Toyota is it in the 1/2 ton or less market
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I will take reliability over looks any day.
I have both.. 
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