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Re: 264 win mag loads 264wm #6686749 07/15/12
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 846 Loomis, WA 2 264wm Campfire Regular
264wm Campfire Regular 2 Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 846 Loomis, WA	Van Zwoll published 129gr Hornady 3423 fps with 26" barrel using 67gr H4831 and 3 shot .8 in group.

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Re: 264 win mag loads 264wm #6690608 07/17/12
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,757 Oklahoma City Ok P Popapi Campfire Tracker
Popapi Campfire Tracker P Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,757 Oklahoma City Ok	Stepped out and tried some VV N570(70.5grns) as per Bergers data with a 140VLD shows great promising as per accuracy and lighting the chrono up a little over 3200fps(3204fps average)! I'm stoked and will verify this load again on the weekend Lord willing!!!! O yeah NO PRESSURE what so ever in the Broughton 26incher!!!!!

Re: 264 win mag loads Popapi #6690684 07/17/12
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,303 Northeast USA B beretzs Campfire Ranger
beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,303 Northeast USA	That load is a screamer! I imagine RL33 and N570 would be very awesome in the 264 with the heavier bullets. 3200 with the 140's is no joke! Semper Fi

Re: 264 win mag loads beretzs #6690823 07/17/12
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,757 Oklahoma City Ok P Popapi Campfire Tracker
Popapi Campfire Tracker P Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,757 Oklahoma City Ok	B in TOTALLY freaked me out especially the accuracy! Can't wait to try that load out again. The RL33 suppose to step up velocity as well, which is a good thing being that VV N570 is so expensive and sometimes hard to get......

Re: 264 win mag loads Popapi #6691969 07/17/12
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 846 Loomis, WA 2 264wm Campfire Regular
264wm Campfire Regular 2 Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 846 Loomis, WA	What size group? VanZwoll clocked 3346 fps with 140gr Hornady with 73gr of H570 which is not made now. What would be the closest powder to the H570?r His group was not that great at 1.2 inches at 100yrds.

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Re: 264 win mag loads 264wm #6692432 07/17/12
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,757 Oklahoma City Ok P Popapi Campfire Tracker
Popapi Campfire Tracker P Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,757 Oklahoma City Ok	.656 FOUR shot group 1st 3 where .558! H570 or H870? If it's H870 I scored on 3lbs of that and is shot better, just ran out of light to chrono....

Re: 264 win mag loads 264wm #6693579 07/18/12
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,943 G GF1 Campfire Tracker
GF1 Campfire Tracker G Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,943	Originally Posted by 264wm Van Zwoll published 129gr Hornady 3423 fps with 26" barrel using 67gr H4831 and 3 shot .8 in group. That load is way to hot in my rifle - caution big time. No criticism of Van Zwoll, as I'm sure he was OK with the stuff he used; it just won't work w/ me and mine.

Re: 264 win mag loads GF1 #6693732 07/18/12
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 846 Loomis, WA 2 264wm Campfire Regular
264wm Campfire Regular 2 Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 846 Loomis, WA	Everyone needs to use caution when loading hot loads he was using a 26" barrel and has a warning on the article.The H570 was discontinued in the 70's but he did use it.

Re: 264 win mag loads 264wm #6693787 07/18/12
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,757 Oklahoma City Ok P Popapi Campfire Tracker
Popapi Campfire Tracker P Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,757 Oklahoma City Ok	^^^Agree^^^

Re: 264 win mag loads Popapi #6698481 07/19/12
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 6,264 Colorado exbiologist Campfire Tracker
exbiologist Campfire Tracker Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 6,264 Colorado	I found US869 to the powder for my gun. 7828 could match the velocity and accuracy, but case life wasn't good- meaning I had to push it too hard. Found pressure too soon with Rl25 magnum and the other usual suspects. Never seen N570, but would be interested. And you should be able to hit 3400 with that 30 inch barrel and 130 accubonds. I'm getting 3375 just fine in my 27.5 incher "For some unfortunates, poisoned by city sidewalks ... the horn of the hunter never winds at all" Robert Ruark, The Horn of the Hunter

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Re: 264 win mag loads exbiologist #6698628 07/19/12
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 846 Loomis, WA 2 264wm Campfire Regular
264wm Campfire Regular 2 Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 846 Loomis, WA	Originally Posted by exbiologist I found US869 to the powder for my gun. 7828 could match the velocity and accuracy, but case life wasn't good- meaning I had to push it too hard. Found pressure too soon with Rl25 magnum and the other usual suspects. Never seen N570, but would be interested. And you should be able to hit 3400 with that 30 inch barrel and 130 accubonds. I'm getting 3375 just fine in my 27.5 incher I am liking those numbers and can hardly wait for the 130's to get here I will be getting a crono soon also.

Re: 264 win mag loads 264wm #6698755 07/20/12
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,303 Northeast USA B beretzs Campfire Ranger
beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,303 Northeast USA	Here is a decent snap shot of the 264, 26" barrel and a 140 AB and some different powders.. Cartridge : .264 Win. Mag. Bullet : .264, 140, Nosler AccuBond 39457 Useable Case Capaci: 74.854 grain H2O = 4.860 cm� Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders. Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 % These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window. C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations. USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON ! 187 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped. Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time % Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms --------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- ADI AR 2218 105.5 77.5 5.02 3321 99.5 64000 16306 1.222 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N570 101.2 73.6 4.77 3278 99.0 64000 15918 1.252 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder 33 100.9 76.5 4.96 3259 99.4 64000 15608 1.256 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-50 107.4 80.1 5.19 3257 99.0 64000 16029 1.280 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H870 107.3 76.5 4.96 3250 99.8 64000 15258 1.258 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon Retumbo 104.9 72.8 4.71 3228 100.0 64000 13768 1.245 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N560 93.0 65.6 4.25 3207 100.0 64000 14209 1.247 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate MAGPRO 93.3 68.4 4.43 3203 99.7 64000 14446 1.256 ! Near Maximum ! Norma MRP 2 100.5 69.3 4.49 3202 100.0 64000 14073 1.263 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Magnum 95.3 70.4 4.56 3201 100.0 64000 13853 1.250 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 517 95.6 70.4 4.56 3201 100.0 64000 13841 1.250 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 12 95.5 70.3 4.56 3199 100.0 64000 13808 1.250 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 7828 SSC 92.0 65.2 4.23 3196 100.0 64000 13726 1.238 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 7828 97.3 65.2 4.23 3196 100.0 64000 13726 1.238 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 107.8 78.7 5.10 3189 93.1 64000 15622 1.286 ! Near Maximum ! Norma MRP 91.1 65.6 4.25 3188 100.0 64000 13564 1.258 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AP 2214 97.0 69.5 4.50 3188 100.0 64000 13428 1.234 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2213 93.2 65.0 4.21 3186 100.0 64000 13653 1.234 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H1000 102.0 69.6 4.51 3185 100.0 64000 13391 1.234 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori 24N41 104.3 76.7 4.97 3185 95.0 64000 14785 1.238 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon 50BMG 109.7 76.9 4.98 3183 91.6 64000 15151 1.246 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-25 98.2 67.4 4.37 3176 100.0 64000 13056 1.253 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon US 869 109.4 80.4 5.21 3174 95.1 64000 14815 1.252 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-22 93.4 65.1 4.22 3173 100.0 64000 13489 1.254 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 93.4 65.1 4.22 3173 100.0 64000 13489 1.254 ! Near Maximum ! Raufoss RA15 93.4 65.1 4.22 3173 100.0 64000 13489 1.254 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester WXR 95.9 65.4 4.24 3173 100.0 64000 13517 1.254 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 97.0 68.2 4.42 3165 99.7 64000 13736 1.234 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R905 94.8 64.9 4.21 3156 100.0 64000 13404 1.250 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2209 90.6 62.2 4.03 3142 100.0 64000 12892 1.237 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-19 91.0 62.8 4.07 3139 100.0 64000 12942 1.244 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP14 ~approximation 91.7 63.3 4.10 3133 100.0 64000 12857 1.244 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4831 SC 92.4 64.5 4.18 3129 99.9 64000 13022 1.241 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4831 96.1 64.5 4.18 3129 99.9 64000 13022 1.241 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N170 105.0 71.6 4.64 3127 98.0 64000 13766 1.263 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 13 110.0 77.6 5.03 3120 98.1 60691 14250 1.293 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori 20N29 110.0 81.7 5.29 3120 96.3 59412 14741 1.305 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex D100 102.0 75.8 4.91 3109 95.5 64000 13658 1.253 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R904 90.5 61.6 3.99 3102 100.0 64000 12509 1.240 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S385 91.1 63.6 4.12 3095 100.0 64000 12300 1.264 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester Supreme 780 90.0 65.5 4.25 3093 100.0 64000 12344 1.252 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N160 96.6 63.9 4.14 3084 100.0 64000 12288 1.244 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N165 96.0 65.6 4.25 3082 100.0 64000 12056 1.257 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 3100 99.0 64.6 4.19 3067 100.0 64000 11884 1.284 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S071 99.0 64.6 4.19 3067 100.0 64000 11884 1.284 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4831 90.6 59.9 3.88 3065 100.0 64000 11649 1.267 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 110.0 77.6 5.03 3060 96.5 56861 14177 1.330 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 8700 110.0 77.7 5.04 3052 97.4 54879 14102 1.335 Here is a 130 AB as well Cartridge : .264 Win. Mag. Bullet : .264, 130, Nosler AccuBond 56902 Useable Case Capaci: 75.520 grain H2O = 4.903 cm� Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders. Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 % These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window. C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations. USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON ! 182 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped. Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time % Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms --------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- ADI AR 2218 106.9 79.3 5.14 3419 99.0 64000 16368 1.187 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N570 102.7 75.4 4.89 3382 98.5 64000 15995 1.214 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder 33 102.4 78.3 5.08 3363 99.0 64000 15683 1.218 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-50 109.0 82.0 5.32 3358 98.4 64000 16073 1.242 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H870 108.9 78.3 5.07 3354 99.5 64000 15360 1.219 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon Retumbo 106.5 74.5 4.83 3339 100.0 64000 13913 1.206 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N560 94.4 67.2 4.35 3314 99.9 64000 14370 1.210 ! Near Maximum ! Norma MRP 2 102.0 71.0 4.60 3310 100.0 64000 14242 1.225 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Magnum 96.7 72.1 4.67 3309 100.0 64000 14011 1.211 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 517 97.0 72.1 4.67 3308 100.0 64000 14000 1.211 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate MAGPRO 94.7 70.1 4.54 3308 99.4 64000 14564 1.219 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 12 96.9 72.0 4.66 3307 100.0 64000 13966 1.211 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 7828 SSC 93.4 66.8 4.33 3304 100.0 64000 13900 1.200 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 7828 98.7 66.8 4.33 3304 100.0 64000 13900 1.200 ! Near Maximum ! Norma MRP 92.5 67.2 4.36 3298 100.0 64000 13731 1.220 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AP 2214 98.4 71.1 4.61 3294 100.0 64000 13582 1.196 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2213 94.6 66.6 4.31 3294 100.0 64000 13814 1.196 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H1000 103.4 71.2 4.62 3292 100.0 64000 13544 1.196 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-25 99.8 69.1 4.48 3288 100.0 64000 13208 1.214 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 109.3 80.5 5.21 3282 92.1 64000 15539 1.250 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-22 94.8 66.7 4.32 3281 100.0 64000 13655 1.216 ! Near Maximum ! Raufoss RA15 94.8 66.7 4.32 3281 100.0 64000 13655 1.216 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 94.8 66.7 4.32 3281 100.0 64000 13655 1.216 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester WXR 97.3 67.0 4.34 3281 100.0 64000 13682 1.216 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori 24N41 105.7 78.4 5.08 3280 94.1 64000 14728 1.201 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 98.3 69.8 4.52 3268 99.3 64000 13826 1.197 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R905 96.2 66.5 4.31 3261 99.9 64000 13550 1.212 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2209 91.9 63.6 4.12 3250 100.0 64000 13053 1.199 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-19 92.3 64.3 4.17 3246 100.0 64000 13101 1.206 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP14 ~approximation 93.0 64.8 4.20 3239 100.0 64000 13012 1.207 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon US 869 110.0 81.6 5.29 3237 93.7 62127 14629 1.232 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon 50BMG 110.0 77.7 5.04 3233 89.8 61417 14849 1.233 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4831 SC 93.7 65.9 4.27 3233 99.8 64000 13147 1.203 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4831 97.5 65.9 4.27 3233 99.8 64000 13147 1.203 ! Near Maximum ! Raufoss RA4 90.7 63.1 4.09 3227 100.0 64000 12830 1.204 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP4 ~approximation 90.7 63.1 4.09 3227 100.0 64000 12830 1.204 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N170 106.4 73.2 4.75 3225 97.4 64000 13786 1.226 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R904 91.7 63.0 4.08 3206 99.9 64000 12654 1.203 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex D100 103.3 77.4 5.02 3201 94.6 64000 13609 1.217 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S385 92.4 65.0 4.21 3201 100.0 64000 12449 1.226 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester Supreme 780 91.3 67.0 4.34 3198 100.0 64000 12480 1.214 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 4350 90.6 60.3 3.91 3188 100.0 64000 12000 1.238 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N160 97.9 65.3 4.23 3187 99.9 64000 12422 1.207 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N165 97.4 67.1 4.35 3187 100.0 64000 12195 1.219 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4350 90.5 61.6 3.99 3185 100.0 64000 12092 1.205 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4831 91.9 61.3 3.97 3176 100.0 64000 11798 1.228 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S361 90.8 67.3 4.36 3174 99.8 64000 12459 1.215 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S071 100.5 66.2 4.29 3174 100.0 64000 12025 1.246 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 3100 100.5 66.2 4.29 3174 100.0 64000 12025 1.246 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 13 110.0 78.2 5.07 3163 96.8 57496 14085 1.286 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori 20N29 110.0 82.4 5.34 3154 94.6 55997 14488 1.301 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 110.0 78.2 5.07 3098 94.8 53811 13948 1.324 Accurate 8700 110.0 78.4 5.08 3088 95.8 51879 13902 1.330 Semper Fi

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