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Not playing. The deck is stacked. Two tested and true handguns and one UNtested shotgun.
I disagree. Mossbergs are notoriously reliable pumpguns. You've function-tested it with half a box of shells, which means it works. My only quibble, and it may seem a small one, is I'd want a few more shells through it before I would accept it as "tested and true." And anyway, aren't you the guy who wants to put a couple of hundred rounds of pistol ammo through a handgun before you bet your life on it? Why wouldn't that apply to a pump shotgun? And another thing, why does the OP specify half a box of shells instead of saying it's tested and true?
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I'd roll a hang gernade down the stairs and hide under the bed. ....not sure what a "hang gernade" is? Something that you shoot out of a "hang gun?"
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I'd grab my carbine. But, of those choices, it would be the semi-auto handgun.
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I would call the police and cower till they arrived.... No premeditation here�. Snake
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I made the decision several years ago when my children came home from the hospital. All guns but one are locked in the gun safe except my XD40 with laser.. One? Hah.. What good's that gonna do you if the 'bump in the night' happens to be at the time you're pinching a nighttime loaf? Hehehee.. Rule of thumb is to have at least one available for each window.....a rule I happen to mostly follow..
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Travis, Have you been out in the pasture again??? Why, I thought you were a revolver man. Maybe I got the wrong dude. R There's only one me. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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#3 all day every day.
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And another thing, why does the OP specify half a box of shells instead of saying it's tested and true? Any choice will require some concessions, and I'm curious about that particular concession. I figured most would skip the revolver, and that a proven shotgun would beat out a proven semi-auto most of the time. The decision gets tougher if the shotgun was only function tested and tougher yet if the shotgun was a cheaper model.
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Most of us make this decision by what we keep by the bedside every night. I keep a H&K USP in 40 S&W. Shotguns, (which I've used on varmints outside at night many times) are too slow and unwieldly in a house. I want to be nimble and quick.
And if I hear one more time "Just rack the slide on a 12 gauge and the invader will run" ------- I'll regurgitate.
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Roger that! It only works in the movies IMHO.
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A shotgun is an excellent stationary weapon for home defense. But were one forced to move to check on family members, it's a poor choice.
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I disagree...it is my first choice if available. Instant stopping power as has been proven to me on many a charging pit bull. How you propose to maneuver a shotgun while walking the hallways of your home?
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Most of us make this decision by what we keep by the bedside every night. I keep a H&K USP in 40 S&W. Shotguns, (which I've used on varmints outside at night many times) are too slow and unwieldly in a house. I want to be nimble and quick. +1
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The reason I chose the shotgun, regardless of the lack of use is because a firearm failure isn't limited to how many times you've used it. It fails one time, although that one time may be never, seldom, or all the time. It's each occurence. The odds of it failing don't decrease with continued use, compared to it's lack of use. Tried and tested doesn't mean anything, in my opinion. It's the "each" or "one" time you use it that matters. The shotgun, in my opinion is better suited to the job, manufactured by a reputable company. It's the right tool for the job, regardless of the lack of rounds through it.
Deserve's got nothing to do with it.
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Really? You can't walk your hallway with a shotgun in your hands?
For this choice I'd choose the shotgun. But I wouldn't feel undergunned with either choice. Having the drop on intruders coming up the stairs with a shotgun, I'd actually feel fairly confident.
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How you propose to maneuver a shotgun while walking the hallways of your home? Muzzle down, drop to a knee if you need too and fire.
Deserve's got nothing to do with it.
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Having the drop on intruders coming up the stairs with a shotgun, I'd actually feel fairly confident. Yep, it was a pretty specific scenario.
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without reservation, I'd grab this Springfield .45 with the Surefire X300
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And you would be well armed indeed!
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I would go with the 12ga and it wont be loaded with bird shot!And by that I mean it will be loaded with buck shot.Now if an intruder puts a handgun up against that he will lose!
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I made the decision several years ago when my children came home from the hospital. All guns but one are locked in the gun safe except my XD40 with laser.. One? Hah.. What good's that gonna do you if the 'bump in the night' happens to be at the time you're pinching a nighttime loaf? Hehehee.. Rule of thumb is to have at least one available for each window.....a rule I happen to mostly follow.. If I'm up for a night time delivery there isn't anybody who's gonna wanna come in for any reason.
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