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I read it. That's my point. You mentioned two. Neither are large. Nonsense. GIGN is about the size of, and comparable in mission to, the largest SWAT team in the U.S. Likewise ECO Cobra. Both use the MR73 as their first line offensive arm. -- Michael  massmeans.com | Zeleny post.harvard.edu | 7576 Willow Glen Road, Los Angeles, CA 90046 | 323.363.1860 | http://www.subrah.comhttp://larvatus.livejournal.com | "All of old. Nothing else ever. Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett [/quote] And both together are tiny compared to the LAPD......... You keep making my point for me.
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I read it. That's my point. You mentioned two. Neither are large. Nonsense. GIGN is about the size of, and comparable in mission to, the largest SWAT team in the U.S. Likewise ECO Cobra. Both use the MR73 as their first line offensive arm. And both together are tiny compared to the LAPD......... You keep making my point for me. By parity of reasoning, you have proven military irrelevance of the .338 Lapua Magnum AI AWM, in so far as it's never seen, let alone fired, by the average infantryman. Thanks for your helpful clarification. -- Michael massmeans.com | Zeleny post.harvard.edu | 7576 Willow Glen Road, Los Angeles, CA 90046 | 323.363.1860 | http://www.subrah.comhttp://larvatus.livejournal.com | "All of old. Nothing else ever. Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett
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What is the likelihood of Korth staying in business without the rich Americans? The same ones that will put in the safe...because they will shoot the S&W's. I'm an American by the Grace of God my forefathers had the fortitude to make the decision...I couldn't be more blessed for that. In that I don't think any German firearm is better than an American one for me...for that simple fact. Germany may have great Engineers, factories, etc...but at the end of the day, they are still German. No offense, but I love being an American. I wouldn't throw away a Korth revolver, but I would love to get the implied value and get a safe full of S&W's instead. JMHO...YMMV.
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I would never piss my money away on that nazi piece of schit.
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I read it. That's my point. You mentioned two. Neither are large. Nonsense. GIGN is about the size of, and comparable in mission to, the largest SWAT team in the U.S. Likewise ECO Cobra. Both use the MR73 as their first line offensive arm. And both together are tiny compared to the LAPD......... You keep making my point for me. By parity of reasoning, you have proven military irrelevance of the .338 Lapua Magnum AI AWM, in so far as it's never seen, let alone fired, by the average infantryman. Thanks for your helpful clarification. -- Michael massmeans.com | Zeleny post.harvard.edu | 7576 Willow Glen Road, Los Angeles, CA 90046 | 323.363.1860 | http://www.subrah.comhttp://larvatus.livejournal.com | "All of old. Nothing else ever. Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett Man, you are the gift that keeps on giving! The .338 Lapua fills an entirely different role than a standard infantry arm whereas a Korth is simply an irrelevant duplication of the exact same arm carried into conflict by 10s of thousands of servicemembers and police officers. Chuck me another softball, Z. Expat
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...a Korth is simply an irrelevant duplication of the exact same arm carried into conflict by 10s of thousands of servicemembers and police officers. And an 'arm' that Zeleny admits shouldn't be used as a service revolver. Yep, sign me up for a multi-thousand dollar .357 Mag that, given frequent cleanings, is only fit for punching paper. Whoops, nevermind - I just checked my paperweight inventory and there's no room.
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Wow, a bunch of bitter old men in this place.
Nobody is asking anybody to put down their S&W's and Colts. Take the Korth and the Manwhatever for what they are - beautiful examples of craftsmanship at the highest level, over engineered and over built beyond what any normal person could ever expect. That doesn't mean your other guns aren't good. They are. Sheesh. Arguing about which gun will last 400,000 rounds and which one has better accuracy at 76000 meters is just plain stupid.
A rolex tells time just like a timex. It's just made a lot better. In the end, they both do the same thing. Some people just like to own really nice stuff.
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FWIW, I don't know why anybody would ever want to take a revolver, no matter how awesome it is, into battle.
Give me a good auto with 3X's as many bullets that weighs half as much any day of the week. You're not going to find many guns more reliable than a good glock/xd/M&P/etc.
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A rolex tells time just like a timex. It's just made a lot better. In the end, they both do the same thing. Some people just like to own really nice stuff. But in this case a Korth doesn't do the same thing. To use your comparison, if little a rain and dirt is going to jam up the Rolex I'll go with the Timex - I might need to know the time. This bitter old man isn't saying Korth is junk, quite the opposite, but the precision with which its made is its own worst enemy. I have no use for a handgun I can't carry or hunt with. "Battle" has nothing to do with it for me.
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Nonsense. GIGN is about the size of, and comparable in mission to, the largest SWAT team in the U.S. Likewise ECO Cobra. Both use the MR73 as their first line offensive arm. And both together are tiny compared to the LAPD......... You keep making my point for me. By parity of reasoning, you have proven military irrelevance of the .338 Lapua Magnum AI AWM, in so far as it's never seen, let alone fired, by the average infantryman. Thanks for your helpful clarification. Man, you are the gift that keeps on giving! The .338 Lapua fills an entirely different role than a standard infantry arm whereas a Korth is simply an irrelevant duplication of the exact same arm carried into conflict by 10s of thousands of servicemembers and police officers. Chuck me another softball, Z. "You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it does." Clearly, the MR73 is relevant enough to operatives of GIGN and ECO Cobra, men whose trigger time both in and out of the line of fire is likely to exceed that of the best shooters on this forum by orders of magnitude, for their agencies to pay over twice the cost of comparable American revolvers. Just as clearly it is as relevant enough to American shooters who pick up every last piece of GIGN and ECO Cobra surplus with six figure round counts for amounts that would buy them a brand new S&W Custom Shop lookalike, plus a case of Magnum ammo. If all you are saying is that it is irrelevant to you, try telling it to somebody who cares. Like your mother or your psychiatrist. -- Michael massmeans.com | Zeleny post.harvard.edu | 7576 Willow Glen Road, Los Angeles, CA 90046 | 323.363.1860 | http://www.subrah.comhttp://larvatus.livejournal.com | "All of old. Nothing else ever. Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett
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A rolex tells time just like a timex. It's just made a lot better. In the end, they both do the same thing. Some people just like to own really nice stuff. But in this case a Korth doesn't do the same thing. To use your comparison, if little a rain and dirt is going to jam up the Rolex I'll go with the Timex - I might need to know the time. This bitter old man isn't saying Korth is junk, quite the opposite, but the precision with which its made is its own worst enemy. I have no use for a handgun I can't carry or hunt with. "Battle" has nothing to do with it for me. Let me guess. You never fired a Korth. -- Michael massmeans.com | Zeleny post.harvard.edu | 7576 Willow Glen Road, Los Angeles, CA 90046 | 323.363.1860 | http://www.subrah.comhttp://larvatus.livejournal.com | "All of old. Nothing else ever. Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett
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...a Korth is simply an irrelevant duplication of the exact same arm carried into conflict by 10s of thousands of servicemembers and police officers. And an 'arm' that Zeleny admits shouldn't be used as a service revolver. I said nothing of the sort. -- Michael massmeans.com | Zeleny post.harvard.edu | 7576 Willow Glen Road, Los Angeles, CA 90046 | 323.363.1860 | http://www.subrah.comhttp://larvatus.livejournal.com | "All of old. Nothing else ever. Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett
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What is the likelihood of Korth staying in business without the rich Americans? Korth hasn't had an American importer for at least the past five years. Most of their current customers are in Europe and the Middle East. -- Michael massmeans.com | Zeleny post.harvard.edu | 7576 Willow Glen Road, Los Angeles, CA 90046 | 323.363.1860 | http://www.subrah.comhttp://larvatus.livejournal.com | "All of old. Nothing else ever. Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett
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FWIW, I don't know why anybody would ever want to take a revolver, no matter how awesome it is, into battle. Stopping power. No point in arguing with success. Read up on GIGN. -- Michael massmeans.com | Zeleny post.harvard.edu | 7576 Willow Glen Road, Los Angeles, CA 90046 | 323.363.1860 | http://www.subrah.comhttp://larvatus.livejournal.com | "All of old. Nothing else ever. Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett
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Read up on common [bleep] sense.
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What is the likelihood of Korth staying in business without the rich Americans? Korth hasn't had an American importer for at least the past five years. Most of their current customers are in Europe and the Middle East. -- Michael massmeans.com | Zeleny post.harvard.edu | 7576 Willow Glen Road, Los Angeles, CA 90046 | 323.363.1860 | http://www.subrah.comhttp://larvatus.livejournal.com | "All of old. Nothing else ever. Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett Excellent news! I hope the trend continues...
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KORTH ENVY, It's a small step from envy to hate. "Envy aims very high." -Ovid 
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What is the likelihood of Korth staying in business without the rich Americans? Korth hasn't had an American importer for at least the past five years. Most of their current customers are in Europe and the Middle East. -- Michael massmeans.com | Zeleny post.harvard.edu | 7576 Willow Glen Road, Los Angeles, CA 90046 | 323.363.1860 | http://www.subrah.comhttp://larvatus.livejournal.com | "All of old. Nothing else ever. Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett Excellent news! I hope the trend continues... +1
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Korth hasn't had an American importer for at least the past five years. Most of their current customers are in Europe and the Middle East.
Try again. http://www.korthusa.com/dealer_en.htm
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