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Rex...please tell me how you think one making 500K a year doesn't pay taxes. I mean,really man...I'm dying to read your evidence behind that HS.

Ryan's budget is already Romney's platform, dumbass.

You might not have directly said that but you were inferring it.



When you strip away all your rhetoric, what you're really saying is you want us lowly people to pay more and for you and the rest of the top 1% to pay less.

all this "fair share" horseshit would be a lot easier to swallow if the top earners weren't already pulling the wagon for everybody else. Top one percent pay 37%, top five percent pay 59% of all personal income tax. So it would be nice if the other 95% at least had the decency to say thanks for covering my bills instead of whining for more.

No,I want all to participate. Why should I contribute my money to the pockets of the 40+% of the country who don't contribute to the Federal tax system?

I still await any factual evidence of your positions,especially the 500K vs 90K wage earners.

I knew wealthy people, they should keep all their money. Have you, or anyone you know, ever made a $2.4 million donation to fund a children's hospital? How about being a major contributor to every hospital in a major city. How about a friend of the person I knew that made a $32 million dollar donation to build a completely new hospital as a memorial to her late husband? Have you funded scholarships? Have you or anyone you know funded the arts, symphony halls, performing arts centers and museums? Endowed parks acquisitions, established foundations for medical research, established annuities for long term employees, paid for medical care of employees and their families faced with catastrophic illness? If not you are part of the problem. That individual employed over 40 full time positions on just one of her estates, with others being employed on ranches, farms and in her property management firm, how many do you employ? Don't sit around criticizing the wealthy, it was your responsibility to make something of your life so you too could contribute to society. Better the wealthy have the money to practice philanthropy than the government waste resources buying favors and reaping kickbacks. Just where did all that Solyndra money go?

End of rant.

Under Romney/Ryan's plan, are you going to pay more or less?



Under that plan, what do the rest of us get?




I want to keep my money just as much as you do whether it's in tax breaks today or in future benefits from SS/Medicare. If I need to make sacrifices, so do you.


Once the budget and economy is in better shape, I would be more than willing to support a more equitable income tax plan.

The top 0.001% are the ones who have their wealth shielded from income tax by such things as incorporating it and sheltering it in tax-exempt foundations. Regarding the latter, take a gander at a copy of the Dodd Report of the 1950s.

I don't think you should but I sure as hell don't want that burden falling on me and if taxes are cut for the top 1%, that revenue is going to be made up somewhere.

One first step would be to start taxing the retained income of foundations with assets over half a billion dollars or so....which would be particularly sweet since they are such big supporters of commie causes. Think Ford, Pew, Rockefeller, the Harvard endowment......now there's a tax increase we can all get behind.

Well, Romney has stated from day one that he wants the Ryan plan. That's a matter of public record and a...... gasp!........ fact!

A liar like yourself trying to accuse somebody else of making things up is hilarious. Back it up! Find one post where I am just making things up.

Again the fake liberty lover calling for the removal of others liberties! That sounds exactly like a liberal to me...

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It doesn't have to be made up. First, tax cuts, especially for the wealthy, stimulate investment and increase tax revenue. Second, if revenues fall, then government should shrink accordingly. The government is a poor investment for future economic growth. The wealthy drive the economy out of self-interest, provide an expanding employment base and create wealth and prosperity across the board.

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You're in real estate sales and enjoy extraordinary tax deductions. Assuming you make 150K or less,tell me again how you'd be paying more under Ryan's plan.

Personally, I'd rather see us cut the Dept of Ed., Homeland Security, TSA, all foreign aid and Congressional pensions to get a tax cut rather than finding someone else we can tax.

Doesn't matter. The way the libs have us going, no one will be getting anything other than the govt. aristocracy behind the financial collapse they have designed for us, aided by well meaning stupid libs who are too dumb to realize that overspending by more than a trillion a year won't last long. When it all comes tumbling down and martial law prevails to reduce the population the dumb [bleep] will still be wondering why we don't just tax the rich and Exxon a little more to pay off the debt and keep the party going.

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Color me skeptical but I really don't believe this fairy tell that everyone will pay less and we'll magically balance the budget.


The burden is going to fall somewhere and it sure as hell can't be made up by the lower tier who don't make very much to begin with. That pretty much leaves me and the rest of the middle income folks who actually pay taxes.

That isn't a answer to my question,at all. You would benefit far much moreso than I would,depending upon the full extent of loopholes,investment benefits etc. on the chopping block.

I'd like a honest answer to my question,which I know you'll provide if you feel comfortable answering...in general terms.

Your own profession and the benefits you reap belie your own positions asserted here this morning.

Lest you forgot, the GOP spends at about the same clip as the libs and under Bush the federal government grew by the largest percentage since FDR.


If the libs plan is to destroy us from within, the GOP ain't far behind.