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They can be made relatively light, but not as light as the synthetic or the wood. Under 30oz would be pushing it. Doesn't mean it can't be done but the amount of wood removal (contouring, drilling and grinding) would be extensive.
If you decide to go that route you need to start with a stock that is properly inletted along the barrel channel (it should match the barrel contour), start on the forend and progress to the butt stock, then hollow it out.
Here is one I contoured, removed cheek piece, drilled buttstock, hollowed out forend, recontoured grip and comb flutes and added a Decelerator and refinished. Came in at 37oz, down from 46 IIRC. For a Mauser in .35 Whelen. I put the same stock on a 700 in 375Chatfield-Taylor and gave it the same treatment, but shortened the forend and left the cheekpiece on. I didn't consider removing the cheekpiece or I would have done that too. I got mine down to 36oz. It's perfect for the rifle and I would do it again for a 375. ![[Linked Image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/2439candace/007.jpg) .
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Super cub,
Nice, sleek and classic lines. I like it.
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Super cub,
Nice, sleek and classic lines. I like it.
DF Thanks ..... It's off to get the nitron coating treatment so the stainless bbl will match the rest. Should be back this week in time to get it ready for a late Sept moose hunt.  .
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That will be one sharp looking rifle with a matching barrel!
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What's the story on nitron coating. I don't think I've heard of that one.
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Nitron coating: Go to your browser's search bar and type that into the box. It's a coating developed by Sig Sauer. Or maybe it was supposed to be nitrided (titanium nitride) coating used on tool bits. Or could it have been natron, the naturally occurring salt (Sodium Carbonate, Sodium Bicarbonate (along with some smaller amounts of Sodium Sulphate and Sodium Chloride) used by ancient Egyptians to desiccate corpses for mummification. I'm beginning to feel mummified, but then I don't think the Egyptians mummified jackasses.
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I am completely new to the rifle customization process. I am interested in buying a Kimber 84L Montana and replacing the synthetic stock with a laminate. My question is how much heavier should I expect the laminate to weigh compared to the standard walnut stock, assuming similar size and geometry? I am satisfied with the 6lb 2oz weight of the walnuts, and would be ok if the laminate weighed as much as 6 ounces heavier. I am trying to decide if this is possible, or if I should just go a different route.
Thanks,
CH
Don't do this. See how easy that was? Travis Travis, He wants to build something, already has obtained a Mauser action. He's looking for help with his build. Now, he could spend more than the cost of a Montana and have less. That's always a good possibility. But if he's intent on building a Mauser, he deserves a chance at success or a shot at a big mistake. If he learns from the experience, the cost is just tuition. If not, then it's all a dead expense. DF Ok. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Simply because I prefer the feel of a wood stock over synthetic. I have an itch for a light weight, all weather 280AI and would really like to have one with a laminate. I am not sure if buidling one on a Kimber action and getting it in the same weight range as the Select is even a possibility. My opinion is that a homerun would be a rifle scoped out under 7lbs.
However, I am tempted just to say the heck with it save up for a NULA.
Never claimed it to be the most logical thing to do. But if I based all my rifle decisions on logic I would have stopped buying rifles with my 30-06... Grin!
You convinced me. Laminate the schit out of it. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Might want to consider a Bill Shehane OBeche laminate stock. It is an African mahogany type wood that weighs about as much as Cedar or Redwood but stronger. I think these come close to a fiberglass stock in weight but not a graphite stock. A couple others will do custom laminates with a carbon center layer then lighter wood on the outside.
If you go that route I would be tempted to use a less expensive action, a lighter scope, and then save for the NULA or Forbes rifle.
"When you disarm the people, you commence to offend them and show that you distrust them either through cowardice or lack of confidence, and both of these opinions generate hatred." Niccolo Machiavelli
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A Kimber coupled with a laminated stock. How could you go wrong? 
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Dirt - I noticed the top one is checkered. Is that something you had done, or was it that way when you bought it? Reason I ask is I have 2 laminated stocks, but neither have checkering and have been told (by Karnis no less) that it's problematic. I'm looking at stippling them, but haven't had the time to investigate that process.
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The JRS (Sondra sporter) I believe today is called a Boyd's Classic. Now you can also get them with checkering, and your initials laser engraved on it.
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A Kimber coupled with a laminated stock. How could you go wrong? Strap one of these on it: ![[Linked Image]](http://www.rockcity.biz/images/webpictures/WoodProducts/RAILROAD_TIES.JPG)
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