Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Winchester Collectors 1955 Model 70..... BUMMED

I figured I would at least give him a chance to make it right.

+1, no way in hell is that a $5200.00 rifle....

Yep, it is customary to have a 3 day non fire inspection period...

I called him about it right away after I shot it, three days after I got it to see how he wanted to handle it. I guess I have my answer now.

Internet sales are a roll of the dice - especially if you have not dealt with the seller before. The odds are generally good but every once in a while you get burned. At least you did get a gun out of the deal. Not exactly what you wanted but something.

By the way, I would enjoy seeing pictures of the rifle,

Find out for sure what it is, post some pictures and put it on the classifieds. I bet you can easily get your investment back.

I guess it is time to leave him some feedback on gunbroker.

No.. Not if you bought it from a dealer to begin with.. You can send it back w/o an FFL or going through any dealer..

I sure hope you get it resolved..

3 voice mails and 2 e-mails. It doesn't look good.

I'm doubting this - this was his dream gun (I've never managed to find a dream gun at a bargain price) and I'm thinking the seller had it priced for being an all original and collectable gun. With the chamber alteration it is not original and the collector status has been greatly diminished. It is a shooter now and possibly a nice one, but I cannot be optimistic about the return on investment

I suggest sending it back. The seller just dumped a POS on you and was probably aware of what it was. I myself would never trust any model 70 that I could not verify it's origin. You learned a good lesson. If that guy gives you a problem taking it back, post it here.

Given the seller has quit responding to any form of communication, a buyer's thoughts quickly jump to wondering if they send the rifle back, will they be out BOTH the rifle and the money

I can't tell you what to do. Regardless of all the advise here you're the one that needs to settle on a plan to get your money back. But what I would do is consult an attorney and have him write a letter explaining a few general details about the upcoming lawsuit. Bing, bang, boom. Not being overly critical but you're overloaded with advise and underloaded with decision making. You've been a nice guy and that just doesn't pay off when someone genuinly screws you. FYI

All good except this: what if the seller is in a different state? Then you have to find an atty in HIS state, and be prepared to drive/fly there when/if it goes to court..

What's the cost then? (BTDT, learned a lot.. ) In my case, I just resold the pos and was lucky enough to only lose $150 overall..

For what it's worth, at this point given you have sold the rifle and lost $150, I would write the seller and suggest I was about to get my lawyer involved and give him one last option before I did so - to rebate $150 and he would be in the clear.

Sorry to hear the problems. My 55 Model 70 in 300H&H was passed down to me. Just a standard grade rifle, but I got all 5 of the boxes of ammo, 2 1/2 had been shot. The old Silvertips with the Grizzley on the box. I have seen several Model 70's and Remington 721's that looked right but had been rechambered to something else. Many could fire the original 300H&H round. As a dream rifle I would be not happy. Not even sure I would know how to tell a SS barrel from a standard steel one, perhaps a magnet? Standard barrels do come up now and then, don't think I have ever seen a stainless barrel, or for that matter a rifle with a factory stainless barrel. Hope all works out well for you.

The stainless barrels don't have the "bulge" for the rear site and they are not dovetailed or drilled and tapped for any sites. At least that is what I was told.

Just wondering....any resolution with the seller?

I'm curious as well....keep us posted please..... Can you post some pics of the rifle. Thanks...