|
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 873
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 873 |
I have no theories on "who done it", but a 6.5 Carcano lumbering a 156gr ball round at 2400fps and it exploding a mans head at 80yds does not match up with anything I've seen in the field or my own testing. I must submit, I have never fired anything into a man's head. I saw a documentary where they fired ammunition, from the same lot that Oswald supposedly used, into a section of telephone pole end on. The results yielded 18" of straightline penetration and no bullet deformation. This muddies the water for me...
"The world breaks everyone,and afterward, some are strong at the broken places" Hemingway
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,101
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,101 |
hatari,
How do you KNOW Oswald acted alone?
Thx,
R The Grand Ayatollah told me. Look, since this was before you were born, let me help you out. Assassination of our President is serious schitt. Love them or not, we don't shoot them. When this happened, everybody wanted to know WTF happened. The Warren Commission was very thorough. You can never satisfy everybody and details can be interpreted and twisted to fit your own personal theory. If LBJ did it, the GOP would have been on him. If the Mob did it, then there would have been a bigger war on Carlo Gambino et. al. than on Ho Chi Mihn. Castro didn't do it or we would have invaded Cuba and the USSR would not have lifted a finger to help them. How do I know Oswald acted alone, because the most thorough crime investigation in the history of man says so. Sounds like you've got yourself thoroughly convinced.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 33,856
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 33,856 |
Well, either the Warren Commission lied or Jackie Onassis lied to her daughter about something relatively important.
Last edited by eyeball; 09/21/12.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 7,297
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 7,297 |
Hey guys.I was young when this happened.Seventh grade in school.Knew downtown Dallas and can still remember the way it was where this happened.Dont know how many times I have taken that same route.How many times I have looked up at the window the shots came from.One man could have done it without a problem.This was easy to do.Thats why he did it.
Ideas are far more powerful than guns, We dont let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas. "Joseph Stalin"
He who has braved youths dizzy heat dreads not the frost of age.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 17,293 Likes: 4
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 17,293 Likes: 4 |
Was an excellent job done by the 6,5... almost too excellent for a thinking man to believe. I'll leave it at that Geo
"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson
GeoW, The "Unwoke" ...Let's go Brandon!
"A Well Regulated Militia" Life Member
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 33,856
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 33,856 |
Hey, if it was that easy, somebody else for sure did it.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 7,297
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 7,297 |
The limo was going from left to right and away from the school book depository.Sorta like lower left to upper right and slightly downhill.Slow moving car.
Ideas are far more powerful than guns, We dont let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas. "Joseph Stalin"
He who has braved youths dizzy heat dreads not the frost of age.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 23,374 Likes: 2
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 23,374 Likes: 2 |
Sounds like you've got yourself thoroughly convinced.
Everybody loves conspiracies. Conjecture is more sporting than reality.
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." Han Solo
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 38,938 Likes: 11
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 38,938 Likes: 11 |
... Using reason, if there had been a grassy knoll shooter, doesn't one think that witnesses would have seen and heard the shot(s), and run to Dallas cops? ... Research William and Gail Newman.
Not a real member - just an ordinary guy who appreciates being able to hang around and say something once in awhile.
Happily Trapped In the Past (Thanks, Joe)
Not only a less than minimally educated person, but stupid and out of touch as well.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 6,237
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 6,237 |
Yup. You made my case, thanks. Of course George Washington and Dwight D. Eisenhower tend to contradict the principle. Isn't George Washington the fellow who put down the Whiskey Rebellion, imposed stiff taxes and penalties for distilling liquor and then became the largest distillery owner in the USA? No hero is perfect, which is why limited government is a vital ingredient in Liberty!
Ignorance is not confined to uneducated people.
WHO IS JOHN GALT? LIBERTY!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 132,013 Likes: 61
Campfire Sage
|
OP
Campfire Sage
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 132,013 Likes: 61 |
Yup. You made my case, thanks. Of course George Washington and Dwight D. Eisenhower tend to contradict the principle. Isn't George Washington the fellow who put down the Whiskey Rebellion, imposed stiff taxes and penalties for distilling liquor and then became the largest distillery owner in the USA? No hero is perfect, which is why limited government is a vital ingredient in Liberty! I blame Hamilton for those things. He had way too much influence over Washington. Washington wasn't an intellectual giant, and looked up to Hamilton intellectually. Sort of the way SteveNo and Bob look up to me.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 17,293 Likes: 4
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 17,293 Likes: 4 |
Washington wasn't an intellectual giant, and looked up to Hamilton intellectually. Sort of the way SteveNo and Bob look up to me. Heh, God Almighty!
"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson
GeoW, The "Unwoke" ...Let's go Brandon!
"A Well Regulated Militia" Life Member
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,522
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,522 |
Yes. Shot from the grassy knowll. Don't ask how I know.
XXXXX
George Washington - �Labour to keep alive in your breast that little spark of celestial fire,�conscience.�
God save the Republic
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 132,013 Likes: 61
Campfire Sage
|
OP
Campfire Sage
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 132,013 Likes: 61 |
Washington wasn't an intellectual giant, and looked up to Hamilton intellectually. Sort of the way SteveNo and Bob look up to me. Heh, God Almighty! You like that?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 132,013 Likes: 61
Campfire Sage
|
OP
Campfire Sage
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 132,013 Likes: 61 |
Yes. Shot from the grassy knowll. Don't ask how I know.
XXXXX You did it, didn't ya?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 17,293 Likes: 4
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 17,293 Likes: 4 |
Washington wasn't an intellectual giant, and looked up to Hamilton intellectually. Sort of the way SteveNo and Bob look up to me. Heh, God Almighty! You like that? Best laugh of my day.. Thanks
"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson
GeoW, The "Unwoke" ...Let's go Brandon!
"A Well Regulated Militia" Life Member
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 54,284
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 54,284 |
Hi bigsqueeze,
My biggest concern is the authenticity of anything found on youtube. In essence, anyone can modify a film & post it on youtube as authentic.
The best source of Kennedy's autopsy would be primary source documents of the county pathologist that performed it. It would have been highly unlikely that he knew whether Oswald acted alone, especially considering that autopsy was performed almost immediately after death was pronounced. His primary concern would have been cause of death. Any autopsy after the initial one I would view with suspicion.
So if you can get your hands on Kennedy's pathologist's primary source documents, they would be definitive, assuming they haven't been altered.
I hope this helps.
Take care,
R JFK was autopsied at Bethesda Naval Base in Maryland, not in Dallas County where the murder occurred. No county coroner was allowed to autopsy him. Most of the folks here commenting on the assassination lack even rudimentary knowledge of it. They're commenting based on a couple of TV documentaries or some such. If you enter into the issue with preconceptions and want a certain outcome, you can likely get it as there has been plenty written on both sides.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 54,284
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 54,284 |
Washington wasn't an intellectual giant, and looked up to Hamilton intellectually. Sort of the way SteveNo and Bob look up to me. Heh, God Almighty! You like that? Bob and Steve won't but it's one of your best. It's even tempting to PM Bob and see what he says. lol I'm not an instigator like Evil Twin though. Nope, I'm not.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 132,013 Likes: 61
Campfire Sage
|
OP
Campfire Sage
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 132,013 Likes: 61 |
Washington wasn't an intellectual giant, and looked up to Hamilton intellectually. Sort of the way SteveNo and Bob look up to me. Heh, God Almighty! You like that? Bob and Steve won't but it's one of your best. It's even tempting to PM Bob and see what he says. lol I'm not an instigator like Evil Twin though. Nope, I'm not.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 33,856
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 33,856 |
Yes, JFKs body was illegally taken from the hospital immediately after his death under threat of US Govt violence toward those involved in his care before the local authorities were able to exercise their legal obligations in ascertaining the cause of death, to the consternation of many on the scene. The trauma surgeon who treated him was appalled to later see pictures of JFK in death that had been completely transformed from what he had seen during his ER care and before the Govt 'specialists' fixed him up -for posterity.
Last edited by eyeball; 09/21/12.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
|
|
|
|
173 members (1badf350, 338reddog, 2ndwind, 117LBS, 204guy, 1lessdog, 27 invisible),
2,310
guests, and
969
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,194,446
Posts18,528,791
Members74,033
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|