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Ok, laughed t all of the above! TRH was cleaver for once.

hatari,

Can you think of a single war we weren't propagandized into, with the exceptions of the Revolutionary War & the War of 1812? If we were propagandized into wars, does that not, by logical extrapolation, implicate conspiracy?

If we have fought wars arising from conspiracies, why would you suppose JFK's murder did not involve principals who've aided and abetted Oswald? How would you explain Bob Jackson, who snapped the photograph of Oswald apparently wincing in pain after being shot, saying he never saw a droplet of blood? How would you explain how Ruby, a known felon, knew the precise time Oswald would emerge from behind a secure door -cops were late transporting Oswald to court, which would only have been known by cops and FBI agents- into an extremely secure basement and, while escorted between two cops, waltz up and shoot him? Ruby arrived at Dallas PD at the precise time, parked his car, and walked right into the basement where he was able to shoot Oswald.

Do you really believe the plethora of compelling circumstantial evidence that meshed perfectly at precise times were merely coincidences, the probability of which being unfathomable?

BTW,

I've learned that the county coroner was denied custody of Kennedy's body for autopsy in violation of law. That alone is extremely suspicious. Why was law intentionally violated, probably under threat of violence?

As I said above, Ruby hung around the station brown nosing the cops for years. He was a well known figure around there and made friends. All well documented. Security in those days isn't what it is today. Ruby's presence raised no eyebrows as he was there every week. Plenty of cops were used to seeing him. Ruby was hot headed and impulsive and used his familiarity with the cops to watch the transfer and do his deed. Plenty of reports on that.

Witness the fact that they put bullet proof vests on high profile suspects as they transport them to and from these days. Guess why? Jack Ruby is a big reason.

Guess why Presidential limos are no longer convertibles and are armored? Oswald!

I'll stick with the Warren Commission Report. Nothing else is nearly as timely or thorough. These were two opportunistic crimes.

Because it was the President of the United States. Kennedy got a bullet in the head. No mystery there. They were not going to leave the body of the President lying around in the county morgue. Jeez.

You're reply implicates that we're a nation of men, that law is immaterial.

At the time of JFK's murder, there was no federal law proscribing the murder of a president. Therefore, the investigation of JFK's murder was solely the jurisdiction of Dallas PD.

Let me help you out again. This is also well known.

The autopsy of President John F. Kennedy was performed, beginning at about 8 p.m. and ending at about midnight EST, on November 22, 1963, the day of his assassination, at the then Bethesda Naval Hospital in Bethesda, Maryland. The choice of autopsy hospital in the Washington, D.C. area was made at the request of Mrs. Kennedy, on the basis that John F. Kennedy had been a naval officer.

When the President gets whacked and the First Lady tells everyone she wants the former Navel Officer to be autopsied by the Navy, it gets done no questions asked.

This was not some dude on the street, this was the President. This became a national crisis and it was handled as such. That was a reasonable thing to do.

You can conjure up conspiracy theories about 1 million points of minutia, and believe it all. You can believe that JFK, Elvis, and Marilyn are all cavorting together on some South Pacific island if you choose.

Dr. Perry, one of the first to attend to Kennedy when he was brought to the hospital, and who examined the wound in the front of the neck below the Adam's apple said it was about 5mm (less than 1/5 of an inch) in diameter, and with no rough edges.

In a press conference one hour after Kennedy was pronounced dead Perry said this neck wound was an entrance wound.

Later, while being grilled and led by the questioning of Specter, Perry relented to the pressure and said that the neck wound could have been either an exit or an entrance wound.

Perry was experienced in dealing with gun shot wounds prior to treating Kennedy. So I lean heavily toward believing what he said one hour after Kennedy died was indeed true, immediately following his seeing the wound. At this point in time it was not possible for anyone to devise a cover-up, as it was too early.

What do you think about this?

Dude, go with the Warren Commission. They were thorough.

I've shot enough game to see some funky entrance and exit wounds. When some have been shot more than once, as in a follow up, we've stood around trying to decide which was first, which was entrance and which was exit. Some are obvious. FMJ aren't so obvious. They punch holes.

This all makes for great sport and conjecture, but too many people are not willing to accept that the answers are very simple.

Oswald acted alone, and the circumstance just presented itself to him and he acted. Same with Ruby. He had the opportunity fall into his lap and took action.

Castro wasn't going to do it for fear of reprisal knowing the Soviets wouldn't back him.

The Soviets weren't going to do it for fear of being nuked.

The Mob wasn't going there because the pressure to shut them down for good would be enormous.

None of the wild-assed conspiracies make any sense. A kook with emotional problems, an axe to grind with the government, a rifle, and a map of the Presidential motorcade passing right in front of his place of employment does make sense. A disturbed kook could say to himself "I can do this!" in such a circumstance.

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Not to hijack the thread but the revolutionary war and the War of 1812 were both propagandized wars. All wars are propagandized by the powers-to-be. No war is started by the common man.

Somehow you are sure the Warren Commission was thorough.

Somehow you are sure that Oswald acted alone.

You are easy to convince, it would seem.

I'm not sure about those things of which you are so sure.

Didn't you read Ethan Edwards' posts?

.......Bullcrap!..... Dude! The Warren Commission centered its entire report on 3 shots fired from the 6th floor window of the TSBD building by a lone assassin named Lee Harvey Oswald. Period! Any evidence to the contrary they disregarded.

All other evidence to the contrary such as, oh let`s see now;;;;

The many witnesses who heard MORE than 3 shots? All of the people who were there that day running TOWARDS the grassy knoll area immediately after the attack? Smoke coming from the trees on the knoll area as was reported by bystanders standing on the railroad overpass? The dismissal by the Warren Commission of the Dallas doctors, that didn`t fit the scenario of 3 shots fired from the TSBD?

On and on I could go!

Setting everything else aside, perhaps you can explain to me how it is assuming YOU HAVE reviewed the Zapruder film close up and frame by frame, that the shape of the president`s head from frame 319 is drastically different vs the damage seen to the head from frames 313 through frames 318?

Notice that big protruding bulge at the back of Kennedy`s head which wasn`t there from frames 313 to 318? And then all of a sudden that bulge appears in frames 319 forward?

Every version of the film you can come up with, shows that bulge which is a large piece of dislodged skull flap from the right top portion of the head NOT seen from frames 313 to 318. How do you explain that additional damage other than a second head shot?

Oh the film was altered? Oh this and oh that! Prove it!

So let`s see now!......We have one 6.5mm round nosed bullet fired from the TSBD that enters the back of the head then exits the right temporal area. Ok, I`ll buy that as that is clearly seen if frame 313. But then within a few film frames afterwards, we now see a protruding bulge at the back of the head with MORE extensive damage as well as a change of shape to the top right portion of the head not seen from frames 313 to 318?

All that damage caused a one single 6.5mm round nosed bullet? Oh really!

Better carefully re-think that one there Mr. The Warren Commission did a thorough job.

STILL GOT THE SHOVEL!

The Shooter. Good movie.

John McCain said we don't have to be worried about our nation with 'zero' in charge a few days ago. He would have fit in real well with other members of the Warren com.

[bleep], it's because of John McCain that zero is in charge...

Well, him and George W., the RNC, and a bunch of dumb voters. Right now a bunch of dumb suckers like add, nwa, and sac are trying to figure out who can lead us out of a recession best -a guy with a jd from harvard or a guy with a jd and MBA from Harvard. Maybe they would even wonder who would be best to operate on them if they needed surgery- their jd degreed hero or an MD.

LMAO! everytime I see something on JFK assassination, I think of this. I've always wanted to put in my signature line: "I know who was on the grassy knoll" but then I'd prolly come up mysteriously missing....