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My first gen SS Mountain Guide goes 5 lb 10 oz on my trigger scale, no scope or mounts. Anyone else weigh theirs? My Mtn Guide 7-08 is 6 lbs 12 oz with talley LW lows, a VXIII2.5-8, and alumina flip covers. Almost exactly what mine weighs - only difference is a 6x36 scope and its a .243. Mine comes in at 6 lbs 10 ozs. all up.
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Swampman, not trying to argue or get your goat but you can ask any custom gunsmith and they will confirm for you that remington tolerances are off by a surprisingly large amount. That my friend is piss poor QC to say the least. A well put together rifle is deserving of a beuitiful stock that complements what the rifle truly is. The new Remingtons quite frankly should all come with a plastic stalk. And for the record this isn't based on hear say it's based on barreled actions that have been taken apart and checked for trueness. You haven't done this so what you said is hearsay and BS.
Shod All this is just personal bias without any factual basis. Spelling needs improvement too. I shoot groups and game. That's why I'll always have a Model 700 in the safe.
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I can only speak for the last one I owned, but it had one rough, crappy, 3 MOA barrel, that would never come clean or become more accurate with anything I fed it...It quickly went down the road.
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All this is just personal bias without any factual basis. Spelling needs improvement too. I shoot groups and game. That's why I'll always have a Model 700 in the safe. [/quote
I sure hope the groups and game you shoot are a lot better than the line of BS your shooting. What factual info are you basing all remingtons off of anyways? The one in your safe is somehow the master and perfect replica of all remingtons? WOW! Sorry but most aren't buying it. How exactly is taking the SOB apart and checking tolerances more biased than you putting one in your safe and looking at it.
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What is the point you're trying to make? Which action are most custom builds done around? I haven't seen a 700 that wouldn't do an inch or better, granted it was fed ammo that it liked and schit was properly arranged.
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Which action are most custom builds done around? Mauser Jesting... Look at the action the Marine Scout Snipers use... Remington 700 short action. The Army used a long action one in the m24 until they switched to a semi automatic rifle.
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The Army must not know about those [bleep] awful tolerances.
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Even the USAF Special Forces use Remingtons. I've watched them shoot and shot with them many times. Navy Seals too....
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All this is just personal bias without any factual basis. Spelling needs improvement too. I shoot groups and game. That's why I'll always have a Model 700 in the safe. [/quote
I sure hope the groups and game you shoot are a lot better than the line of BS your shooting. What factual info are you basing all remingtons off of anyways? The one in your safe is somehow the master and perfect replica of all remingtons? WOW! Sorry but most aren't buying it. How exactly is taking the SOB apart and checking tolerances more biased than you putting one in your safe and looking at it.
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I've been shooting Remingtons since 1962. It's pretty common for them to shoot less than MOA right out of the box. I've owned a pile of them. While I'm sleeping with a Model 70 right now, I'm married to a Model 700. She never lets me down.
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Swampman, not trying to argue or get your goat but you can ask any custom gunsmith and they will confirm for you that remington tolerances are off by a surprisingly large amount. That my friend is piss poor QC to say the least. A well put together rifle is deserving of a beuitiful stock that complements what the rifle truly is. The new Remingtons quite frankly should all come with a plastic stalk. And for the record this isn't based on hear say it's based on barreled actions that have been taken apart and checked for trueness. You haven't done this so what you said is hearsay and BS.
Shod Just out of curiosity, how many 700s have you taken apart recently and measured, or witnessed measured, and what were the specs on them? Up for an answer.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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Which action are most custom builds done around? Mauser Jesting... Look at the action the Marine Scout Snipers use... Remington 700 short action. The Army used a long action one in the m24 until they switched to a semi automatic rifle. Army still uses the M-24.
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Chambered in 7.62X51 (M24A1), .300 Winchester Magnum (M24A2), .338 Lapua Magnum (M24A3)
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Just another example of our military's ineptitude buying all those M24A1's that don't shoot for chit with all those [bleep] up tolerances...Looks to me like they should have tested those things before they bought all those thousands of rifles .......................Hb
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Which action are most custom builds done around? Mauser Jesting... Look at the action the Marine Scout Snipers use... Remington 700 short action. The Army used a long action one in the m24 until they switched to a semi automatic rifle. Army still uses the M-24. Crap.. you are right, sir. The XM2010 is a upgraded M-24 in 300 Winchester Magnum.
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I'll answer the question this way: the last made-in-the-USA rifle I paid full price for was one of the new FN-made Winchester Model 70 featherweights.
Now, what was the question?
If you're fixin' to put a hole in something, make it a hole to remember.
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And they are nice but they aren't light....
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Going to pass on the 700 Mountain as they don't make a SS in left hand...
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I've bought, sold and traded several different brands of rifles over the past few years. A few are keepers that never leave, but I simply like to try different things to form my own opinions. Some higher dollar than others, multiples of several brands, several different chamberings -- probably 50ish in the last few years -- just speaking about bolt guns. The brands I've purchased are Remington, Ruger, Winchester(FN and New Haven), Cooper, Kimber, TC, Savage, Forbes and Montana Rifle Company. One each of the last two...and they both are great shooters, but I won't include a sample of one in my statement below.
In my experience, the top three in out of the box accuracy are:
1. Cooper 2. Remington 3. TC
I don't currently own a Savage or TC.....and probably won't buy another. I just don't care form them. I will continue to buy the other brands and currently own most of them. I still am a fan of the 700, 77, 70, etc.
I wouldn't hesitate to buy a 700 mountain ss and probably will in the future.
I enjoy handguns and I really like shotguns,...but I love rifles!
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Now that's what I like to read a true unbiased opinion on a subject, and I also like that you didn't form your opinion on the example of one like so many do.....Very refreshing.... This is Something that others should try sometime........Thanks for an honest opinion Smoker...............Hb
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I haven't seen a 700 that wouldn't do an inch or better, granted it was fed ammo that it liked and schit was properly arranged. So...is that important?
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