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+1 could have hit him 2 or 3 times in that time span.
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Yeah, lay a great shot in there while the bear is completely unaware, then let him know exactly where the problem is. That is exactly why non-residents need guides. People would get hurt doing what you suggest...
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The shot was obviously fatal and the bear had no idea what happened so it wasn't going to go far. Shoot it again and it probably would have run off at full speed - or charged. I dont really care for Jack but in this case he did the right thing IMHO. As for the penetration is this the bear that he illegaly used an expanding head on? I know it shows in the video he's using a ficed blade head but that could have been edited in after he got all the grief for using an expandable (which I believe is illegal for grizz in AK) on the video.
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Wow good thing I don't need a guide or your opinion. I have stuck several bears with two arrows and no problem. Its call shot selection. He had a perfect quartering away shot at it that would have ended the story and still not given his position away anymore or less then the first shot did. However he still didn't have good arrow penetration and he was well enough behind the shoulder. Maybe not a clear pass thru but should have at least made an exit to some degree.
Reelman the video like you said showed a fixed blade head, however could very well have been doctored.
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Would also explain the bad penatration.
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Yeah, bad penetration like failed bullets in dead critters...
Doubt seriously you ever stuck a bear of that size... and probably not the same species, either. A bear that size is a whole different animal from the average Booboo.
I detest the guide's taint on that bear, but it is hard to argue with the killing shot and waiting...
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Don't know dick about the outfitter/guide, but Jack is a sportsman - I do know that. Easy to criticize the shot and how it played out, but unless you were there, your opinion is weighed accordingly. Awesome bear.
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Following a huge, wounded Kodiak bear this spring I saw it take seven rounds which individually would have killed it... and it kept going for a ridiculously long time. Some critters are just amazing... I have gotten to watch far more bears die than most, and I thought Jack's bear was a very well done thing right up until they hauled out some CS handgun...
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Lucky the guide had a rifle. If the bear had charged, that pistol would have been worthless in its current state. It was on half-cock. In an adrenalin state, it could've been easy get confused trying to get it into action.
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Why take the fun out of the hunt??
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Brittingham doesn't do much for me.
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"Perfect shot, dead in 10 minutes"? I have never shot a bear with archery equipment, but that seems like an awefully long time. Is that normal or expected? I've killed 2 bulls and numerous deer. Never had on last even a minute. I did see one bull shot that hung in for 2-3, but I wasn't the one who sharpened the heads, so I don't know what condition they were in. My first bull took 3 lunges and crashed. The second made it 7 feet from where I shot.
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No sir you are correct I have not killed a bear that big. I have killed a few that were big enough to have made book. The first up on the Taku about a half mile from Canada. The second in Idaho Inlet. Both I put two arrows into, and both died about 10 yards from where they were shot. The first one was shot at 18 yards and the second was shot at 31 yards.
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I thought it was a bit strange that they found him back in the timber, like the guide knew he was there.
They didn't say anything about a moose kill but you can clearly see the bear is lying on one. Hopefully for Mr Brittingham, that hunt was legit but I wouldn't bet money on it.
Either way, what a freakin monster of a bear!!
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Wonder if the guide knew he NEEDED a controlled round feed rifle to hunt those dangerous bears?! Didn't he know that going after grizzly with a Remington 700 is akin to taking a knife to a gun fight?
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Jack is a great guy and I feel fortunate to call him a friend. To armchair quarterback him from behind a keyboard is a little ridiculous
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I'd love to be in Jack's shoes. He's a hunting machine.
I meant not to stir controversy, but do consider that bear to be among the greatest trophies taken anywhere by anyone in my lifetime.
I've looked at that footage a hundred times.
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I sliped out the back door just today, crap there it was the one I have been looking at most all year! But the wind is wrong and I'am on the down slope thou determind I no I should be carefull.But eversteady of nerves I moved on. Then a unexpected animal flushed,I was stone fast afraid to look for it was something was a mis. 10 min later the rabbit moved and I got the pumpkin,My best to date. grin
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Ten years ago I guided an archery elk hunt that Jack was on, with 2 of his friends. I had spent 3 days hanging tree stands on water in some killer places. When Jack and his buddies arrived for the hunt they told me to pound sand and that they wouldn't sit in a tree over water. They wanted to hunt on the ground and call the bulls in. Always thought that was cool of them.
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Jack is a great guy and I feel fortunate to call him a friend. To armchair quarterback him from behind a keyboard is a little ridiculous I don't think that he's the one being "arm chair quarterbacked", I think it's the guide that's getting all the scrutiny.
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