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Actually, I think the guys suggesting he should have arrowed the bear again are...
Having backed up serious bear bowhunters I can assure most with experience would consider it ridiculous to advertise to the bear that you are there. I think Jack did the right thing... uhhhhh aside from the handgun, that is!
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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Pretty ballsy hunt, regardless of the firearms present.
What a monstrous critter. I woulda soiled myself,
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Actually, I think the guys suggesting he should have arrowed the bear again are...
Having backed up serious bear bowhunters I can assure most with experience would consider it ridiculous to advertise to the bear that you are there. I think Jack did the right thing... uhhhhh aside from the handgun, that is! You might be right. I also agree on him not shooting another arrow into him. I couldn't imagine the devistation that bear could wreak before he keeled over. He definetly did the right thing not shooting again.
That's ok, I'll ass shoot a dink.
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The only thing I know for sure is that's a BFB.
"Be sure you're right. Then go ahead." Fess Parker as Davy Crockett
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Don't know dick about the outfitter/guide, but Jack is a sportsman - I do know that. Easy to criticize the shot and how it played out, but unless you were there, your opinion is weighed accordingly. Awesome bear. Couldn't agree more! Jacks hunts/video's are bar none my favorite to watch. Great bear!
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Was this one of the bears that were illegally baited as linked in the other post?
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Camp is where you make it.
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Don't know anything concerning references to the guide but I don't understand criticizing JB for not shooting again. They had an obvious good first arrow hit with an unaware bear (Huge!) who was obviously going to walk off a short ways and lay down. And " ten minutes"? Doesn't surprise me at all with an animal that size. Extrapolating from an 80 kg man and his five liters of blood to a 400 kg animal would give you twenty-five liters or over 6 gallons worth and if the arrow hit just lung parenchyma and non of the big pipes, it's not surprising at all. I'm say this based on assuming that what we saw was what happened and without editing.
I've taken some thirty to forty deer with b&a and it's amazing how some animals can react with a good but less than perfect hit.
That has to be the biggest bear I've ever seen!
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Notice the duct tape holding the guide's 700 magazine in place?
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Caught that...further proof ADL on a hunting rifle is the way to go.
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Who f'ing cares.
I remember watching a JB video that he arrowed a monster non-typical that he practically raised/fed/nurtured. Deer couldn't defecate without a trail cam on his azz. Wasn't he cited for using mechanical broadheads in Ak on a blackie when it was illegal?
I'd rather see one of the neighborhood kids score a great doe or turkey around here. The satisfaction wouldn't come close.
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The outfitter (Lodge) JB was hunting with is also a habitual lawbreaker in the fishing side of their business,this is not long after receiving a ticket for doing exactly the same thing on another river. Here's one of their guide's chumming trout with eggs in the midst a stonefly hatch on Alaska's Copper River!
I tend to use more than enough gun
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I'll be damned if I'd have given my position away by trying a 2nd shot.
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Actually, I think the guys suggesting he should have arrowed the bear again are...
Having backed up serious bear bowhunters I can assure most with experience would consider it ridiculous to advertise to the bear that you are there. I think Jack did the right thing... uhhhhh aside from the handgun, that is! Right there with you, Art. The last thing I would have been doing when that big bastage stood up and turned my direction is be seen reaching for or knocking another arrow.
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I thought he said "two minutes," not "ten minutes."
Don't blame me. I voted for Trump.
Democrats would burn this country to the ground, if they could rule over the ashes.
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I feel the same way broomd, who cares. I can't believe how many folks idolize this guy, and portray him as such a great hunter. Fantastic bear no doubt about it, but would have rather seen someone take this bear who just isn't filling his (ego), I mean trophy room!
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but would have rather seen someone take this bear who just isn't filling his (ego), I mean trophy room! So exactly just how many guys are hunting brown/grizzly bears for food?
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Who f'ing cares.
I remember watching a JB video that he arrowed a monster non-typical that he practically raised/fed/nurtured. Deer couldn't defecate without a trail cam on his azz. Wasn't he cited for using mechanical broadheads in Ak on a blackie when it was illegal?
I'd rather see one of the neighborhood kids score a great doe or turkey around here. The satisfaction wouldn't come close. Being mostly a do it yourself guy, part of me gets real tired of guided hunters thumping their chests like they were the real hunters that killed the big trophy animals, for if you are in good physical shape and have lots of time and money, filling a trophy room full of big animals really ain't that tough. The top outfitters know right where to take you and many have specific animals patterned and are camped on them awaiting the arrival of the great guided hunter. We've all seen the photos of the proud "hunter" posing with a giant animal and sitting in the backround are the dozen guides that found the record animal and camped on him until the trigger man flew in. I do hate generalizations tho and I do know for a fact that there are some tremendous hunters that use guides too, you just ain't gonna hunt Marco Polo sheep or Afican Lions or Polar Bears DIY..... Taking a big trophy animal on your own is the ultimate in satisfaction, especially if you can share that experience with a son or daughter even better if they are the ones with the tag. I've hunted several animals using guides, some of those hunts were physically gruelling affairs that were shared with great guides that made me feel like I was hunting with a long time friend. I am openly honest in saying that I most likely would not have killed my record book brown bear without my state mandated guide. I am intellectually honest enough however to say that if I came into a lot of money that I'd be hunting my way around the world using guides too,( I would draw the line on high fenced hunts however) so that makes me a first class hypocrite I guess...
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I am intellectually honest enough however to say that if I came into a lot of money that I'd be hunting my way around the world using guides too,( I would draw the line on high fenced hunts however) so that makes me a first class hypocrite I guess...
Yep. Same here.
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