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Campfire Outfitter
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I shoot cast. I prefer the 330 grain Gould Hollw Point. My mould is a Lyman. You don't want a tough bullet for deer. Actually that is a tough bullet. You sure don't want a soft bullet for deer! Horn 300 HPs are great at 1,200fps or so factory but will absolutely explode in a deer at 2,000fps.My old stand-bye 405 Rems are now basically unavailable here in Can, but Horn 350 FPs have proven to be as accurate & tough enough for moose. They work real well in deer, poking a big hole right thru with-out grenading like the 300s do. I found that out the hard way.....Replaced 'em with Speer Unicors and all is well. The Speer is a damn good bullet.
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Campfire Tracker
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If you anticipate Elk, Moose or big bear, look at Buffalo Bore ammo. Duplicate it and you'll be prepared for anything. In your short barrel, 4198 will probably be the best powder and there is no need for jacketed bullets. A 400 gr hardcast at 1900+ fps will handle anything you'll encounter on this side of the pond.
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300 gr. partitions shoot great, but discontinued, I was able to find 200 in an old sporting goods store going out of business.
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I shoot a Soft Lead bullet(WW) cast in a Rapine, Kieth design mould, that when gced and lubed, wieghs 333 gr.. Loaded to 1910 fps, has proven to be very effective on our deer. Makes a nice 1/2" hole in, and normally 1 1/2---2" hole out. Every deer that I have shot with this bullet, considering I'm allowed 6 a year, has been many. The longest shot that I have made was approx.220 yards. Every bullet has exited the deer. Twink
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Nosler and Winchester, working together as Combined Technologies, put out a 300gr moly-coated .458 round nose polymer-tipped "silvertip." I have had great luck grouping them out of a H&R Handi Rifle, and I expect they're going to love the micro-groove rifling in the 1895 that I recently bought here on the Fire. I load them in nickel cases in front of IMR 4320 with WLR magnum primers. They look sharp, and they go BANG!
"Keep your mouth shut, work hard. Life is tough. Work through it.” -- Stetson Bennett, Quarterback, Georgia Bulldogs
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Campfire Ranger
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Campfire Ranger
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The 300 grain Partition was the best 45-70 bullet ever made...IMO
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Campfire Greenhorn
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What distance is this shooting -- 50 yards, 100 yards ????
BOOM!!!!
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Campfire Tracker
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I was loading 405 with reloader 7 for a while and really like the performance with said load
�The constitution of the United States asserts that all power is inherent in the people, that they may exercise it by themselves, that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed!� � Thomas Jefferson
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The only ones made that are better than the discontinued partitions, are the 250 and 300gr Barnes---the best and very accurate.
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Thanks for a very interesting thread.
Retired cat herder.
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