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#7080934 - 11/16/12 Re: Hostess gone [Re: ScoutmasterRick]
Stush Offline
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Originally Posted By: ScoutmasterRick
Sounds like the union Twinkies really stepped on their Ding Dongs this time.



laugh laugh
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#7080936 - 11/16/12 Re: Hostess gone [Re: oldtimer303]
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As usual, nothing happens in a vacuum.
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#7080955 - 11/16/12 Re: Hostess gone [Re: BarryC]
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First Big Tex goes up in flames,..now no more Deep Fried Twinkies.!

Texas State Fair might as well close up shop.!
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#7080987 - 11/16/12 Re: Hostess gone [Re: crossfireoops]
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Originally Posted By: crossfireoops
I think that Little Debbie is behind alla' this,.....



Tounge in cheek here...

Strapping on my tinfoil hat real tight but. It strikes me funny that the unions bein in tight with nanny and we all know how much moochelle hates junk food. That maybe this was planned as part of her war on junkfood
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#7080988 - 11/16/12 Re: Hostess gone [Re: Deerwhacker444]
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The generic Twinkies were never as good!
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#7080991 - 11/16/12 Re: Hostess gone [Re: Deerwhacker444]
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Little Debbie products- $1.79

Hostess products - $3.19
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#7081008 - 11/16/12 Re: Hostess gone [Re: BarryC]
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Appears that the same element (union voters)that voted themselves out of a job are the same ones that recently voted themselves out of a country. frown Gene pool has been sliding in the U.S. for a long time. The big influx the last ten years has lowered it even more. Fits into the Liberal picture, makes old Liberals look intelligent compared to the influx.

Used to be to immigrate to the U.S. it helped to bring a + skill. Now all is necessary is apply for benefits and cast a liberal vote, legal or not. Its all in the book "How to Destroy a Nation". GW
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#7081012 - 11/16/12 Re: Hostess gone [Re: Pugs]
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cross, ya think it's a conspiracy? Little Debbie, Aunt Jemima, Juan Valdez, I'm taking the whole minority, feminist thing. Poor old white Twinkies! Although those dark Ding-Dongs may be tough to fit into my theory. I doubt the MSM will follow up tho.
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#7081027 - 11/16/12 Re: Hostess gone [Re: JeffP40]
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Well, sugar prices oughtta drop......
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#7081039 - 11/16/12 Re: Hostess gone [Re: viking]
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Glad to see those votes for Obama worked out for them. Idiots!!

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#7081044 - 11/16/12 Re: Hostess gone [Re: JeffP40]
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Originally Posted By: JeffP40
Although those dark Ding-Dongs may be tough to fit into my theory.
White filling remember... They are uncle Toms.
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#7081049 - 11/16/12 Re: Hostess gone [Re: huntsman22]
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Hooray, another union victory! Don't worry about the workers, Obama will take care of them.
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#7081061 - 11/16/12 Re: Hostess gone [Re: NathanL]
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Originally Posted By: NathanL
Only one of the unions - the bakers - didn't come to an agreement. I saw an interview with their union guy and he said they fully expected Hostess to either cave in or sell off to another company that would give them a better contract lol.

No way someone is going to buy Hostess. What is going to happen, and the CEO of Hostess has already said his is the path they will take, is they will sell off the trademarks that are worth something to a company already in the business and sell off the plants/property for pennies on the dollar.

Here's a list of closings as of 7am Friday. 18,000 employees in total.

Plant Status

Birmingham, AL: Closed

Anchorage, AK: Closed

Los Angeles, CA (Hostess): Closed

Los Angeles, CA (Dolly): Closed

Oakland, CA: Closed

Sacramento, CA: Closed

Denver, CO: Closed

Jacksonville, FL: Closed

Orlando, FL: Closed

Columbus, GA: Closed

Hodgkins, IL: Closed

Peoria, IL: Closed

Schiller Park, IL: Closed

Columbus, IN: Closed

Indianapolis, IN: Closed

Waterloo, IA: Closed

Emporia, KS: Closed

Lenexa, KS: Closed

Alexandria, LA: Closed

Biddeford, ME: Closed

Boonville, MO: Closed

St. Louis, MO: Closed

Billings, MT: Closed

Henderson, NV: Closed

Wayne, NJ: Closed

Rocky Mount, NC: Closed

Cincinnati, OH: Closed

Defiance, OH: Closed

Northwood, OH: Closed

Tulsa, OK: Closed

Philadelphia, PA: Closed

Knoxville, TN: Closed

Memphis, TN: Closed

Ogden, UT: Closed

Salt Lake City, UT: Closed

Seattle, WA: Closed


Add Billings, Mt., to the list.

190 bakers decided they would rather be on welfare than to support the company and keep their jobs. Pretty stupid move.

The union wins again
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#7081096 - 11/16/12 Re: Hostess gone [Re: EvilTwin]
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Originally Posted By: EvilTwin
The insanity of some unions is legendary. WHY would the union "leadership" opt to stay out on strike when a complete closing is the result?? A bigger and better deal?? Hell no. Now NOBODY has a job. Organize this idiots! Do the union bosses at national level lose their pay?? Do they et their own "Golden Parachute"?? Will they share it with the out of work folks that they so "ably" "represented"???? Inquiring minds want to know.


Well, you know, Union leadership is only looking out for the little guy.... crazy
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#7081111 - 11/16/12 Re: Hostess gone [Re: ScoutmasterRick]
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Originally Posted By: ScoutmasterRick
Sounds like the union Twinkies really stepped on their Ding Dongs this time.

LMAO... Kudos, sir!!!
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#7081145 - 11/16/12 Re: Hostess gone [Re: Redneck]
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LMAO! Chalk up another one for the stupid Obama supporters and union leaders.Just opted themselves out of a job.

What idiots!

Phuck em and let it fold like GM should have.They are all gonna get what they richly deserve.Who needs Twinkies anyway?
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#7081151 - 11/16/12 Re: Hostess gone [Re: BobinNH]
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You can contact the union at 301-933-8600 and ask them how Frank Hurt successfully changed a Ch 11 reorg into a Ch 7 liquidation bankruptcy.

That has got to take some skill!
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#7081212 - 11/16/12 Re: Hostess gone [Re: BarryC]
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Loc: Wyoming
Bottom line is Hostess is an archaic company producing the same chit products they always have, charging constomers more for less of their chit products.

Consumers have changed, hostess didnt.

The company has filed chapter 11 three times. When that happens, its the fault of leadership and poor management...period.

IMO, the union did hostess and the employees the favor of speeding up the inevitable and epic failure produced by mismanagement. Best case 18,500 employees work for 70% of their wage for a few more months until management makes the decision to close the doors anyway. Which, IMO, was going to happen even if the employees agreed to work for free.

Hostess Management screwed the pooch...and its 100% correct that companies die from the neck up.

This is a function of a poorly run company producting a chit product that nobody wants.

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#7081224 - 11/16/12 Re: Hostess gone [Re: BuzzH]
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Gotta circle them wagons and toe that line, eh Buzz?
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#7081226 - 11/16/12 Re: Hostess gone [Re: BuzzH]
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Originally Posted By: BuzzH
Bottom line is Hostess is an archaic company producing the same chit products they always have, charging constomers more for less of their chit products.

Consumers have changed, hostess didnt.

The company has filed chapter 11 three times. When that happens, its the fault of leadership and poor management...period.

IMO, the union did hostess and the employees the favor of speeding up the inevitable and epic failure produced by mismanagement. Best case 18,500 employees work for 70% of their wage for a few more months until management makes the decision to close the doors anyway. Which, IMO, was going to happen even if the employees agreed to work for free.

Hostess Management screwed the pooch...and its 100% correct that companies die from the neck up.

This is a function of a poorly run company producting a chit product that nobody wants.


"Hostess had annual sales of about $2.5 billion. The company said it had been making 500 million Twinkies and 127 million loaves of Wonder Bread annually before Friday's shutdown."

Lord, could you please let me produce something that is so crappy that customers won't buy it as much as they weren't buying Hostess products? Amen.
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#7081230 - 11/16/12 Re: Hostess gone [Re: HugAJackass]
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I deal in reality.

Let me ask you a question.

Would you invest all your money in a company that produces a chit product that has filed chapter 11 three times in a couple years?

Yeah, thats what I thought.

But, the Hostess CEO is asking 18,500 employees to take a pay cut to bet their money on a sure loser.

Makes perfect sense to me.

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#7081237 - 11/16/12 Re: Hostess gone [Re: BuzzH]
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"Hostess had annual sales of about $2.5 billion. The company said it had been making 500 million Twinkies and 127 million loaves of Wonder Bread annually before Friday's shutdown."

...and yet management still found a way to fugg' it up and lose it all.

Congratulations?

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#7081250 - 11/16/12 Re: Hostess gone [Re: BuzzH]
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Originally Posted By: BuzzH
I deal in reality.

Let me ask you a question.

Would you invest all your money in a company that produces a chit product that has filed chapter 11 three times in a couple years?

Yeah, thats what I thought.

But, the Hostess CEO is asking 18,500 employees to take a pay cut to bet their money on a sure loser.

Makes perfect sense to me.


I wouldn't invest a dime in anything union run....

This is what always happens...

This CEO was called in to pull them out of the Chapter 11. He saw that labor costs were too high to do so. That's not so hard to understand. Unless you're union, of course...
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#7081253 - 11/16/12 Re: Hostess gone [Re: BuzzH]
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Originally Posted By: BuzzH
"Hostess had annual sales of about $2.5 billion. The company said it had been making 500 million Twinkies and 127 million loaves of Wonder Bread annually before Friday's shutdown."

...and yet management still found a way to fugg' it up and lose it all.

Congratulations?
Uh, your 'nobody wants their product' was the point.
Given you missed that, I realize we won't agree on the obvious cause of their folding up their tents.
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