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True, but it IS a magnum!

I've killed 12 critters ranging from antelope to elk with Accubonds, including the very load you tested on the milk jugs. I've had nothing but great performance from Accubonds.

I wouldn't put too much stock in the milk jug shoot. Try it on game and see what happens. I bet you'll be happy with their performance.

Exactly.

I used a 140 AB on an elk this fall and the bullet exited on 242 yard broadside shot. Not that an elk is much over 12 thick behind the shoulders, but that's more than milk jug. But most importantly, AB's seem to stir stuff up enough to make life short.

wate is incompressable. Meaning it is at it most dense state as a liquid. Thats why if you wer to drop a submarine into the water from 500 feet it would destroy it, but you can go under the water in a submarine.
The water has to be pushed aside.
Do this slowly and you get penetration. If you do it at a velocity that is beyond the waters ability to be moved out of the way the the projectile is going to compress against the water.
Bone, hide, muscle are all less dense than water in its liquid state.
I am not "amazed" that the bullet didnt "penetrate" I am amzed that the fluid shift from the impact didnt destroy the milk jug on impact.
I have shot many mediums with hyper velocity ammo from RBCD. saboted .224 27 grain projectils from 30-06 for example, that wouldnt penetrate a jug. they would obliterate it. I have seen a boston butt roast that returned to its molecular state (almost) after being struck by a 90 gr 45ACP froma camp carbine.

All this talk about recovering bullets. I don't want to recover them. I want them to go all the way through for a good blood trail if needed. Always had trouble with recovering bullets until I tried my first box of Barnes Triple Shock. They should rename them the "Poleaxers".

seems eveytime one of my buddies loses a deer that they know they hit well its with one of those poly tipped bullets . you guys can shoot those things if you want ,not me. i'll take any spire point bullet over them.

i use 50grn v-max in my 22-250 and 221fb. but i want those to come apart on impact.

I just loaded some Barnes 62 grain Varmint Granades in my 243. 3/4 inch group with my first try at a load. 44 grn of H380. Haven't shot anything with it yet to see how they work.

By the way, I shot that coyote in my avitar with the same gun and 100 grain Sierras (sp) at 200 yards. Took him in the bung hole and it didn't come out. You would sure think it should have. That is when I finally switched to the 85 grain Barnes Triple Shocks.

I shot those 50 grainers for a bit in my 223, but when I switched to the 53s my groups tightened and the wind seemed to matter less. All I shoot with 'em is ground squirrels (we call 'em gophers), and the pink mist factor is impressive! Give those 53s a try, I don't think you'll go back.

It has been used on game...then not going thru a single milk jug also is what really set the alarm off...

"This same bullet/gun has killed two deer, both of which weren't very big and neither bullet made it thru the deer. One was a head on chest shot and it didn't even make it into the chest cavity (30 yard shot), the other was right behind the shoulder at 335 yards and it also didn't pass thru. That deer didn't die, I had to shoot it with my Ackley to bring it down."

Two .257 Roberts shots this year with a 110 AB at 2800 fps. Whitetail at 50 yards broadside - no exit, fell after running 30 yards with no heart or lung.


Axis at 70 yards angling away, bullet went through 2 1/2 feet of deer breaking three bones in the far shoulder but not exiting. Axis went 75 yards.



I see no reason to change bullets

Pugs, nice deer. I like accubonds, I'm not saying they aren't usually a good bullet. It's that these ones I've shot must be bad...

Here is my deer from last week. In the fourth rib and out the first. Right straight down with the leg out straight and quivering. 85 Barnes in 243

Poly tips have absolutely nothing to do with it.

And keep in mind not all poly tips are created equal. Apparently, there are people out there stupid enough to use frangible varmint and target poly tipped bullets and push them out of a big-cased cartridge (because they shoot dime sized groups, which any deer rifle worth its weight must do these days) and expect broken shoulders and exit wounds.




And by the way, the Barnes TTSX has a poly tip...

The Barnes 85 grain 243 Triple Shock is not a poly tip, a hollow point.

A) TTSX= Tipped Triple Shock X; TSX = Triple Shock X

B) They're all hollow points. Some just have a poly tip.

I haven't killed a lot of game with AccuBonds yet but I've had nothing but perfect performance which I've come to expect from any and all Nosler bullets. I guess I'll save my milk jug shots for a different brand of bullet now after this vital information

Anybody have a recipe for milk jugs and advice as to whether well, city, or distilled water is the preferred filler? LOL

Bellydeep - Question. I can see the reason for poly tips in a tubular magazine. Why would the TSX need a poly tip and become the TTSX otherwize? More expansion, less expansion???

Maybe it is the same as colorful fishing lures - to catch the fishermen?

i think you may be right about the color,they only need to catch a hunters eye to sell. like a super short mag.

We all have our opinions. And we have strong feelings about them too.

In a perfect world, one could pick a bullet that does like the Bergers... penetrates enough, to get inside and then disentegrates. Would be a lot of non tracking involved.

To me that also inevitably ruins a lot of meat at times. If you could guarantee that all the frags would stay inside the ribcage then not so big a deal to me.

Personally I like 2 holes in an animal in case I have to trail them. Helps a bit. And I"m not so naive to know that even with the best of shots, and placement, now and then you have to trail.

And Heavy, no flames intended back at you, just an affirmation that the more holes internally, the quicker the death due to the trauma.

RE old Barnes fouling.... Yep that was a big issue. And then they didn't all shoot. I had an 06 that would not shoot em. And a 22-250 that shot 45s into about a 13 inch pattern at 100 regardless...
Have not seen same from Tsx or ttsx. They still don't always kill as fast as the ballistic tip type crowd likes though. FWIW. Plenty quick for me, but not for some.