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Originally Posted by poboy
Houston ain't Texas, just nearby.


You have definitely got that right. I drove Semi for J.H. Rose Trucking out of Houston in the early 80's and that experience taught me one thing.

If you wanted to give this Country an enema you should plug it in in Houston!


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Houston ain't Texas, just nearby.


If you wanted to give this Country an enema you should plug it in in Houston!


LOL....from what I've heard Seattle is paradise compared to Houston...


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I help train security officers & this cop violated every rule I know associated with shoplifters. This first rule of an officer or cop involved in a shoplifting incident is to keep everyone safe. We are discussing a misdemeanor not a felony or a terrorist attack. Attempting to open a car door in a crowded parking lot was his first mistake. Virtually all officers carry radios or cell phones to summon assistance. A description of the car & possible tag number would have resulted in several police vehicles stopping the get away car in short order. When the officer opened the car door the incident may have become deadly. Video footage & witnesses will probably be able to confirm or deny if the officer was indeed subject to being ran over. Firing into a fleeing car with women & children in a crowded parking lot is very
reckless. The second rule of an officer involved in shoplifting is to protect the assists of the merchant. To recover a few hundred dollars of merchandise Wal-Mart will almost certainly settle a civil law suite out of court with the relatives of the deceased women for millions. This officer hardly fulfilled the obligation of protecting the clients assists. Its easy to justify the officers actions if one doesn't consider the ramifications. I know the difficult job LEO's & S/O's are subjected to, but this will not go well for the cop & Wal-Mart.


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Seattle is pretty much paradise period, except for it's inhabitants. Then again, Houston is pretty much occuppied by the same people and 40% illegal aliens.


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Shooting at a fleeing car almost always fails in stopping the car.

Apparently this cop thought he was a good enough shot to thread his bullet through the glass, past the other passengers, around the head rest and hit the driver



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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Seattle is pretty much paradise period, except for it's inhabitants. Then again, Houston is pretty much occuppied by the same people and 40% illegal aliens.


kinda like Florida would be a great place to live, were it not for all the illegals from South America and Haiti, and the hoards of canadians socialists and damn yankee liberals that have moved in. laugh


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Exactly right. There is no doubt that the Gulf Coast will be going the way of California.


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Here's a place for those of you that want to help the cause...

http://www.pslweb.org/liberationnews/news/houston-movement-grows.html


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Originally Posted by 9point3
Shooting at a fleeing car almost always fails in stopping the car.

Apparently this cop thought he was a good enough shot to thread his bullet through the glass, past the other passengers, around the head rest and hit the driver




It was stated mulitple times in the thread, the driver could have been backing up with the door open.

Or she could have floored it in reverse with the door open.

Either way, I don't think anyone *here* knows for certain.


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http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDQQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2Fnews%2Farticle-2245074%2FWalmart-security-guard-shoots-shoplifting-mother-dead-parking-lot-tries-escape-young-children.html&ei=f7DGUPz6E8Wo0AGntIHoAw&usg=AFQjCNEDk5xll8CQPWjN3nAPoqlOQmYbNQ


Walmart security guard shoots 'shoplifting' mother dead in parking lot as she tries to escape with two young children



By James Nye

PUBLISHED:11:09 EST, 8 December 2012| UPDATED: 23:55 EST, 8 December 2012

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A 27-year-old mother of two has been fatally shot by an off-duty sheriff's deputy after he suspected her of shoplifting at a Houston Walmart.


Harris County Sheriff's deputies have said that victim Shelly Frey, Tisa Andrews and Yolanda Craig were stealing when they were confronted by Louis Campbell a 26-year veteran of the force who works as a security guard at the store.


According to Campbell the women ran to their car and when he rushed to open the door, they accelerated away - at which point he fired the deadly shot into the car which hit Frey in the neck.


Security at the store on the 14000 block of the North Freeway had noticed the three women 'stuffing items inside their purses' and notified Campbell, who was working an extra job that evening.


Investigators with Harris County said the three women even attempted to pay for some small items to act as a cover for the shoplifted ones.

After chasing Frey and the other two women to their car, Campbell opened the door and commanded Frey to get out. But she refused, officials said

Andrews began to drive away while the deputy was standing between the open door and the driver's seat.
'She threw it in reverse and tried to run over the deputy,' said Harris County Sheriff's Office spokesperson Deputy Thomas Gilliland.

'He confronted the suspects at exit of the store before they left. One female wouldn't stop, struck the deputy with her purse, ran off.'

'I think it knocked him off balance and, in fear of his life and being ran over, he discharged his weapon at that point.'


Tiasa Andrews, Yolanda Craig were arrested at 1300 block of Greens Parkway where their friend Shelly Frey had died from her gunshot wounds

Inside the car as it was speeding away were two small children - investigators have said that they were not Frey's children.


Gilliland said it was clear that the deputy was law enforcement.


'He was clearly marked in uniform as a Harris County deputy. And identified himself as the suspects were leaving the establishment,' said Gilliland to KHOU.Com

Despite the shooting, the women fled but eventually they stopped at The Worthington at the Beltway apartments in the 1300 block of Greens Parkway.


Paramedics from the Houston Fire Department arrived to try and save Frey, but she was pronounced dead at the scene.


'Shelly was the perfect mom, perfect friend, perfect daughter,' said her father, Shelton Frey.


He said that his daughter had moved to Houston after Hurricane Katrina to start a new life, but the amount of work she could do was limited by her two-year-old who has sickle cell anemia.










The deceased's mother Sharon Wilkerson was devastated that the deputy fired into a car with two small children inside and killed her daughter


'Why couldn�t you just shoot the tire, shoot the window?' said her mother Sharon Wilkerson. 'Was it that serious?'


She added that even if her daughter had committed a crime, she did not deserve to die and she worries now for her two young grandchildren.


'How do I tell these children she's not coming back,' said Sharon.


'To me, it should never (have) happened. I wish the officer didn�t shoot her. I wish he shot her tires just to slow her down. That�s a mother you know. And now they have to figure out what to do with the kids,' said Angel Gaines, a neighbor.


Kesha Sapp, a woman who knew Frey, agreed.

'What that look like with him shooting with the darn kids in the car? There were kids in the car with them. Why is he shooting at the car? Come on now, that makes him look bad. That don�t even look right,' said Sapp.


Both Andrews and Craig, the two other women allegedly involved, have been charged with shoplifting.


Tragically, Frey wasn't even supposed to be at a Walmart that evening.


Earlier in the year she pleaded guilty to stealing shirts and a package of meat from another Walmart and as part of her plea arrangement she agreed to never enter Walmart stores again.

Deputy Campbell is on three days paid leave as is standard protocol. He's been with the Harris County Sheriff's Office for 26 years.


The Harris County Sheriff's Homicide Unit, Office of the Inspector General and the Harris County District Attorney's Office will investigate this incident. The case will be turned over to a grand jury.


Walmart offered the following statement: 'This is a tragic situation and we recognize this is a difficult time for all parties involved. We're committed to working with law enforcement and providing any information we have as they determine the facts of the case. Because this is an active investigation, any specific details of the incident should come from law enforcement.

'We hire off duty officers to provide security to some of our stores. While we have policies in place for our associates to disengage from situations that might put them or others in harm's way, off-duty officers working at a WM store are authorized to act in accordance with their department's code of conduct.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...escape-young-children.html#ixzz2EqpDW8wW
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'How do I tell these children she's not coming back,' said Sharon.


Tell them that she was stealing stuff and the police shot her. Maybe they will not grow up to be thieves, but the odds are against it. miles


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Originally Posted by okok
YIKES!!!! Looks like a clown. eek

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Why would anyone be upset over ridding the country of another Black Ghetto Thief. To bad someone didn't shoot this Black Piece of Chit before the election, one less vote the magic N-ER would have gotten, if she even voted, which i seriously dough. Maybe Walmart can write off the lost on the goods at tax time these three thief's got blood all over . I bet the cop gets sued for messing up her make-up, which she probably stoled from WalMart


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Does te county have any liability? I have often wondered if a local LEO while working in uniform for another entity lost his imunity or if it is transfered to the wage payer or what

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I'm surprised he was even armed working for a dept store


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Originally Posted by RDW
Houston is one big ass cesspool filled with [bleep], in my 30+ years in that nasty city many LEO's died in the line of duty. I am surprised I did not lose one of many friends that went straight from high school to HPD, PPD or Harris County in the early 80's.

Any injuries to, or the death of minors in the car would have been the fault of the stupid bitch behind the wheel, SHE put those kids in danger, period.



no shortage of azzholes in Houston no doubt, population that large it just figures

but while i only lived there one year, part of my reason for leaving was I was amazed how corrupt the cops as a whole seemed to be, some nasty chit went down while I lived there, and a pard stayed and eventually opened up a bar, but he made the mistake of declining to have the local police serve as bouncers when they were off duty, within a few days his place got shot up and the bouncer he'd hired fled out the back door.



but I don't blame the cop on this shoot, I believe with the facts I have at hand he was justified.


taking her kids with her reminds me of a great one liner here recently

TLee was using different phrases to wish different faiths happy holidays


when some joker piped up with "and to the rest a felonious Kwanza"

cracked me up, but it appears that's what this crack ho was up to just providing a felonious Kwanza to her kids.


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When the crooks are caught it is never their fault. And by the way what they were doing really wasn't that bad. Hasbeen


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Originally Posted by tbear
I help train security officers & this cop violated every rule I know associated with shoplifters. This first rule of an officer or cop involved in a shoplifting incident is to keep everyone safe. We are discussing a misdemeanor not a felony or a terrorist attack. Attempting to open a car door in a crowded parking lot was his first mistake. Virtually all officers carry radios or cell phones to summon assistance. A description of the car & possible tag number would have resulted in several police vehicles stopping the get away car in short order. When the officer opened the car door the incident may have become deadly. Video footage & witnesses will probably be able to confirm or deny if the officer was indeed subject to being ran over. Firing into a fleeing car with women & children in a crowded parking lot is very
reckless. The second rule of an officer involved in shoplifting is to protect the assists of the merchant. To recover a few hundred dollars of merchandise Wal-Mart will almost certainly settle a civil law suite out of court with the relatives of the deceased women for millions. This officer hardly fulfilled the obligation of protecting the clients assists. Its easy to justify the officers actions if one doesn't consider the ramifications. I know the difficult job LEO's & S/O's are subjected to, but this will not go well for the cop & Wal-Mart.



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Originally Posted by hasbeen1945
When the crooks are caught it is never their fault. And by the way what they were doing really wasn't that bad. Hasbeen


Another person nails it, again.

It was shoplifting, all she had to do was keep her hands on the wheels and follow directions. She may have been released the next day to shoplift again.

Instead, she chose to be stupid, put other people at risk including children and she is dead, SHE was the problem, period.


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Originally Posted by tbear
I help train security officers & this cop violated every rule I know associated with shoplifters. This first rule of an officer or cop involved in a shoplifting incident is to keep everyone safe. We are discussing a misdemeanor not a felony or a terrorist attack. Attempting to open a car door in a crowded parking lot was his first mistake. Virtually all officers carry radios or cell phones to summon assistance. A description of the car & possible tag number would have resulted in several police vehicles stopping the get away car in short order. When the officer opened the car door the incident may have become deadly. Video footage & witnesses will probably be able to confirm or deny if the officer was indeed subject to being ran over. Firing into a fleeing car with women & children in a crowded parking lot is very
reckless. The second rule of an officer involved in shoplifting is to protect the assists of the merchant. To recover a few hundred dollars of merchandise Wal-Mart will almost certainly settle a civil law suite out of court with the relatives of the deceased women for millions. This officer hardly fulfilled the obligation of protecting the clients assists. Its easy to justify the officers actions if one doesn't consider the ramifications. I know the difficult job LEO's & S/O's are subjected to, but this will not go well for the cop & Wal-Mart.


A very well-written and cogent post. That's how I see it as well. Yes she most definitively tried to kill him or at least severely injure, but the crap she stole was just not worth this mess. Stand by for Al Sharpton and his crew to get energized over this. I see the usual "white-sheet" crowd's already spewed their hatred....


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but the crap she stole was just not worth this mess.


At what point does it get worth it? So your solution is to keep letting them steal over and over? I hate thieves and wish to see stealing eliminated, if it takes a thief losing his/her life, well they chose their profession. miles


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