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The 700s had that AD problem but with the new trigger that is fixed, so they're all good. False on both counts.....
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I know many rifles have 22 barrels, just have never had a caliber 30 Rifle with less than a 24". Just went and looked at some KDF Blaser's and a K15 - wow!
Good luck with your hunt. May the cool weather move a big boy you way!
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Eremicus - haven't ALL these designs shown themselves to be reliable? The 700s had that AD problem but with the new trigger that is fixed, so they're all good. I prefer the tang safety of the Brownings, myself but they're all okay.
Edjk - I am hunting the final days of the season not too far from you. Pipe Creek, to be exact. Lots of rifles come with 22" barrels, not just Brownings.
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Lots of good rifles out there. Jap made Brownings just ain't one of them. I can see they appeal to young kids with monster trucks. Serious shooters and hunters should buy something serious.
That's just a silly statement! I guess you have to drive a Chevrolet or Ford to be a serious hunter also? Both of my A-Bolt II's are the ONLY rifles I own that didn't need to be messed with. Both shoot sub-MOA with many hand loads including several factory loads. Barrels don't walk when hot and go BANG everytime.
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Lots of good rifles out there. Jap made Brownings just ain't one of them. I can see they appeal to young kids with monster trucks. Serious shooters and hunters should buy something serious. That's just a silly statement! I guess you have to drive a Chevrolet or Ford to be a serious hunter also? Both of my A-Bolt II's are the ONLY rifles I own that didn't need to be messed with. Both shoot sub-MOA with many hand loads including several factory loads. Barrels don't walk when hot and go BANG everytime. What do you expect from a feeble mind!!!
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[was] ..Getting hot in here ... were one to place a market value on a Browning A-Bolt II .30-06 Hunter 22" matte blue wood unfired nib what would it be? Curious what kind of response that elicits. I am guessing 0.00 - 525.00 and I drive a f150. hehe.
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Are you familiar with gunbroker.com? Although it is an auction site, a lot of dealers use it too, so you can see what they want for them. Or you can pick up a good deal on a used one.
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That's just a silly statement! I guess you have to drive a Chevrolet or Ford to be a serious hunter also? Both of my A-Bolt II's are the ONLY rifles I own that didn't need to be messed with. Both shoot sub-MOA with many hand loads including several factory loads. Barrels don't walk when hot and go BANG everytime. Well we do know the preferrred choice of the golf cart driving ass shooters.
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That's just a silly statement! I guess you have to drive a Chevrolet or Ford to be a serious hunter also? Both of my A-Bolt II's are the ONLY rifles I own that didn't need to be messed with. Both shoot sub-MOA with many hand loads including several factory loads. Barrels don't walk when hot and go BANG everytime. Well we do know the preferrred choice of the golf cart driving ass shooters. TFF !!!
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That's just a silly statement! I guess you have to drive a Chevrolet or Ford to be a serious hunter also? Both of my A-Bolt II's are the ONLY rifles I own that didn't need to be messed with. Both shoot sub-MOA with many hand loads including several factory loads. Barrels don't walk when hot and go BANG everytime. Well we do know the preferrred choice of the golf cart driving ass shooters. Do tell....what brand of cart do you drive and what size Browning sticker does it have on it?
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[was] ..Getting hot in here ... were one to place a market value on a Browning A-Bolt II .30-06 Hunter 22" matte blue wood unfired nib what would it be? Curious what kind of response that elicits. I am guessing 0.00 - 525.00 and I drive a f150. hehe. Some 16 years old monster truck driver or their girlfriend might get their Daddy to buy it for them. I wouldn't own one if it were a gift.
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That's just a silly statement! I guess you have to drive a Chevrolet or Ford to be a serious hunter also? Both of my A-Bolt II's are the ONLY rifles I own that didn't need to be messed with. Both shoot sub-MOA with many hand loads including several factory loads. Barrels don't walk when hot and go BANG everytime. Well we do know the preferrred choice of the golf cart driving ass shooters. Do tell....what brand of cart do you drive and what size Browning sticker does it have on it? You don't know??? Look in your driveway..........that's where it was parked last !!!
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[was] ..Getting hot in here ... were one to place a market value on a Browning A-Bolt II .30-06 Hunter 22" matte blue wood unfired nib what would it be? Curious what kind of response that elicits. I am guessing 0.00 - 525.00 and I drive a f150. hehe. I'm guessing closer to the $0.00 figure but I may be wrong. If you had to pay someone to take it, however, you'd be looking at the -$0.00 figure...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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This is about the funniest "online experience" I have ever...experienced...certainly with regard to hobbies that go bang. I do appreciate the effort put forth at the expense of others. Markedly Outstanding and overtly precise in its target wise nature. I do not have a horse in the race at this juncture and that makes it that much more amusing. Guess its not a party till someone gets hurt ... physically or otherwise.
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I do not care for the X Bolt at all, but its not for any lack of quality issues. They are very, very nice guns, they just dont appeal to me. I am a huge 700 slut, but there really isnt anything in the current lineup that does anything for me, either. On that front, I will keep my early 70s vintage ADL, and my 308, which is OEM 700 in only the action. Savages just seem cheap to me, even though I know they shoot quite well.
If I had to buy a new boltgun, I would have to sit and think real hard, deciding between a Ruger Hawkeye/77, Vanguard, or CZ. If Howa would build something with some decent wood, or a quality synthetic, I would be all over it. Luckily, there are enough used, older bolt guns on the rack that I dont have that dilemma.
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I have a CZ-550 Premium, and it's a damn fine rifle. Of course it's also a .270...
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They're all crap! Buy a Cooper and have it all, looks, fit, finish, accuracy, great trigger. Not cheap, but you will have a well done classic american style rifle that will serve well for a lifetime.
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Don't own a cart or any stickers for that matter. I choose to drive a Tundra, don't have to work on it either. I'll take all the free Browning's you can round up. Funny thing, I never see them selling that cheap. I own half a dozen 700's, it's my favorite action. That being said, it's not the only show in town. Only a true azz hole would argue such a point.
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Today's bolt actions are reliable if not alot is asked of them. But I've noticed that hunting sometimes does that. Ammo loaded on the hot side can too. In the 50 yrs. I've been handloading, I've seen lots locked bolts from hot loads. I've never done one myself. But, when you blow a primer completely out of a case, that does it with your average bolt gun fitted with plunger ejectors and hook style extractors. That I have done, twice. Both times I was able to open the bolt and eject the case. Thanks to the mauser 98 style extractor, and other design features. I've had hot loads shave off brass and eventually plug a plunger style ejector. Not going to happen with a fixed blade ejector. I've had crude get into Remington triggers, probably from the safety lever slot above the enclosed trigger. You'll either get a heavy, erratic trigger break or even an AD. Never happend with an M70 safety and an open trigger design. Had the bolt stop lock open as well. Weatherbys were famous for this problem at one time. Never happen with a 98 mauser of a Ruger. Ever look at a mauser 98 firing pin ? Lots of travel. Goes bang when others don't either. In spite of their long lock time, they shoot just fine. To each his own, of course. I like pretty wood and nice finishes too. I bought my 7-08 Custom Sako due to it's beautiful wood and it's fit and finish, not because I needed another rifle or needed a 7-08. But the rest of my serious rifles have high quality synthetic stocks, and most wear fixed magnification Leupold scopes. What I really need is a very reliable rifle that will perform under tough conditions if I get faced with them. Which, sometimes, I do. E
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Forget to wear safety glasses, and have a case blow, with the "reliable" 98 and you could loose an eye.
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