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I've talked to a couple smiths and one action builder that said the sliding plate extractors can be fussy, but they are a safer option than a Sako type extractor!

I only have 1 Defiance (GAP Templar) but must agree with everyone else, it is without a doubt the finest action I have ever owned.

I do hope, however, that Defiance comes out with the CRF action they have talked about!

Maybe somthing simular to Mcm's crf but more reasonable...

I have 4 Pandas.There all coned on the bolt nose.
Yes its for feeding.
You'd be surprised how fast you can get 5 rounds down range with a right bolt left port action.

dave

Also by Glenn Harrison.
Running the 300 RSAUM on this one.


dave

Man alive that thing looks heavy duty. They polished the [bleep] outta that thing too.

That is how all defiance actions come from the factory.

When I ordered my last one, I was thinking about going with the flat. I was told they have that option for the guys building big magnums. More bolt lug = stronger.

RD,
The action in the pic is a Nesika model G.
In the 17 lb "light" rifle with my furry buddie Frank.



As nice as the finish is on the Nesika.
The new Defiance is even more so,
Glenn Harrision used to own Nesika.
He started and now runs Defiance Machine.
Hes upped his game and there are improvements on the Defiance that the Nesika models never had.

dave

Sniff.... Haha! Thinking I want one of these but not sure "what for"...

No question these are cool actions.

I do have that Bartlein 6mm #4 hanging around..6XC?...but am sort of lusting after a 6.5 Creedmoor but there are no factory rifles I want....all too heavy.Thinking one of these in a short action.Build a gun kinda like Pat's GAP 260....with one of those larger than average scopes with toorits... I want a repeater.

Bob,
Lapua just came out with a 6.5mm,136g Scenar L bullet.
Trade off that 6mm thing and pick up a 6.5mm barrel and build yourself a tacticacool carry rifle.

Last summer I pushed 136g Hoover VLD bullets out of a puny little 6.5x47 all the way out to 1000 yards.
killed steel just fine at that distance.

Watched my spotter buddie last summer kill two woodchucks with his 6.5x47 1000 yard "light" rifle.We were doing alittle 500 yard load development and the Suicide woodchuck squad showed up.
He shot one off the 200 yard backstop with a 140g Berger Hybrid.It says on the box, TARGET ONLY.And there not kidding.
At the shot the little fellow did a back bite like he was stung by a bee or something and made a mad dash for his hole.
We just kinda look at one another.
Hes dead in the hole alright but we wont be trying that one again.
Bout 20 minutes later victim number two shows up.
Buddie switches out to a 123g AMAX.
This little fellow was sitting on a log sunning himself about 175 yards out.
At the shot the poor guy got flipped into the air about two feet and landed about 3 feet behind where he was sunning himself.
Pretty much a unrecognizable pile of guts
We just kinda looked at one another,again.
The 6,5x47 is your huckleberry Bob.
You need to talk to that Scenarshooter guy on here.
You need one bad.....
Am I helping....


dave

Enabler....

What am I gonna do with that Bartlein? Gotta start all over again....

Hell what's wrong with a 105Amax?

Not a thing wrong with the 105 AMAX.
Sure does make a mess of a chuck out of a 243.
But as soon as I can swing it,im dumping the 6mm 243 stuff for the 6.5x47.
We scoped my 243.
A 243 WCF tears up a throat alot faster than I care for.
My spotters "light" rifle has 1000 rounds down the tube and we scoped it to.Very impressive.At 1000 rounds hes not even close to being half way done.
Thats the thing Bob.
I dont want you to wear it out.
Thats what 6mms do.

dave

I made the mistake of talking to him quite a bit. And I am now hopefully halfway through my wait for a Non Typical in, drum role please, .260 Remington....

Sell me the Bartlein...

Oh....shidt!

Off topic, but interesting Ed Brown CRF bolt face.

In the process of building a 6.5x47. Defiance Deviant Action, Krieger 5R 1:8 fluted Medium Palma, Manners T4 90% Carbon Fiber Mini Chassis, Vortex Razor HD 5-20 MOA EBR2B. Waiting for the 136 to be available and going to have the reamer ground for them seated to max OAL in the AW magazines and minimum no turn neck.

Now theres a real nice blue print for you Bob.
Lets see.
You could hunt vermin with it.
You could hunt deer from a blind.
You could hunt pigs from a blind.
You could shoot f class matches with it.
You could shoot sniper matches with it.
You could shoot steel targets at impossible distances and just impress the crap out of yourself...
See Bob, you really do need one.
Am I helping yet


blackfootkenai,
Loaded 6.5x47 Lapua rounds typically measure about .290/.2905.
At least the blue box brass that i've been messing with does.
I reload with a Redding full length S die and a .289 bushing.
I just got done skimming my first 100 pieces with the K&M neck turner.I got about 90% clean up at .2892 on the loaded round.Thats with a 130g Berger VLD at the pressure ring.
All I have to do is drop the bushing size in my die from .289 to .288.and im good to go.
Figured id try the 130g Berger VLD.The 136 Hoover is a VLD and it outshot my 140 Berger hybrids....at least at 500 yards anyway..
Good luck with your project and I will expect pictures when its done...


dave

Bottom lug sure seems to have been weakened, but an interesting design!

Got a Bartlein for sale, 260 8 twist, attached to a Borden Alpine, Jewell, all wrapped up in a McM Classic

What many are coming to realize what I did in the mid 90s, about 99% of ALL I do and NEED to do, can be accomplished with these:

6BR and 260.

Any variation from 6-7mm in a case from a BR/variant, 47 Lapua/22-250, or 308 case. They WORK, KILL well, accurate, MILD recoil/blast, and bbl life is good.

For a repeater, a mild 6.5 or a 6XC would be my VERY top picks.

Will a vanilla 308 'Get it Done?' SURE, but more bark/bite on MY end than I want....or need.

Not much a good 105 amax, or a good 120-130gr 6.5 can't do when placed right Excellent on deer/hogs, and if larger I'd go 6.5 just b/c.

Not owned a Defiance....yet. Perhaps someday, zero reservations.