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bluefish I don't know as I have not so much as fired a 338-225 AB...nor have I even seen one used on anything...but I bet it will work fine in anything 338. For the work you decribed, I'd build a Mashburn... but I know you are a medium bore kinda guy.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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bob,
for no good reason that 338-06 in a M70 platform with a 24 or 25" barrel in an Echols Legend strikes me as a darned good setup for Western elk/muley hunting. lots of pokey and all in a package weighing what a standard 06 would weigh. what's not to like there, huh? curious if say a 225 AB may be a better flyer for a general elk rig? I settled on the 200 BT for elk in my .338-06. I got a little over 2,700 fps with a 23-inch barrel in a Ruger No. 1. Took two mature bulls with two shots, no tracking. I have also used that bullet a fair amount in my .338 Win Mag with great success, although I am now shooting 210 TTSXs in the .338 Mag, just to try something different. Haven't had the opportunity to use them on game, yet.
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The 200 Ballistic Tip also works fine from the .338 Magnum on elk-sized game. I've used it quite a bit both in North America and Africa at 2900+ fps with very fine results.
Hard not to like the 210 Partition, either!
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elkhunternm,
with an elk' physiology, did that shot break the spine or just what happened there? No,it was a little low for the spine,it took out the forward portions of the lungs. Bob,it dropped right where it was hit!
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Not a very good pic,but here is another elk killed with a 210 NP,this time a .340 Wby at about 125-150 yards. They work and also used a 250 NP out of a .340 Wby for my first elk. Cannot go wrong with a Nosler Partition.
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Not a very good pic,but here is another elk killed with a 210 NP,this time a .340 Wby at about 125-150 yards. They work and also used a 250 NP out of a .340 Wby for my first elk. Cannot go wrong with a Nosler Partition. I agree, the partition just works. Last years cow elk: Just about anything works, though, when you put it in the right place... .....Now what the [bleep] am I going to try next year??? Oh, maybe my 375 H&H
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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22/250 and or Swifto, rumor has it that they work as well... Dober
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Not a very good pic,but here is another elk killed with a 210 NP,this time a .340 Wby at about 125-150 yards. They work and also used a 250 NP out of a .340 Wby for my first elk. Cannot go wrong with a Nosler Partition. I agree, the partition just works. Last years cow elk: Just about anything works, though, when you put it in the right place... .....Now what the [bleep] am I going to try next year??? Oh, maybe my 375 H&H 375 H&H hmmm I have one also that is begging me to go elk hunting next year(2014.)
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Bob,it dropped right where it was hit!
Why am I not surprised? I hear about these "long tracking jobs" here and there with Partitions but strongly suspect it's a case of bullets not landing where they are supposed to go.....hey, it happens to all of us now and then.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Agreed. Kind of hard to determine what happened when the animal is lost.
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Here's a bull I took with the 338 WM and 210 NP on a cold November day... I was cleverly disguised as Tom Selleck and the bull never saw me.
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That is a great bull,one of these days I will kill one like that.
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I'd like to see the elk shoulder that could stop a 210 .338 Partition.
Sign me up for that too! I'd like to ask that "guide" about Partitions being called "trackers"? Sign me up for a front row seat.
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Here's a bull I took with the 338 WM and 210 NP on a cold November day... I was cleverly disguised as Tom Selleck and the bull never saw me. Dang nice bull Brad...I can't wait for this year's elk hunt. I'll be on the chase for a bull this year.. Don't know what I'll use though....Brad, I need some imput on this. What should I use??? Here's my list of what I won't be using if that makes it easier ;): 9.3x62mm 300 win mag 300 wsm 30-06
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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"Tracker" bullets have been a fav of mine since I started loading.
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I like the "trackers" too...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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"Trackers" have always worked for me as well!
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I shot a bull elk a number of years ago on an outfitted hunt in Wyoming. I used a 210 grains Nosler Partition in my Ruger 77 .338 Mag. I hit the bull in the shoulder, the N.P. blasted through and took out a lung and ribs on the off side. Bull took a couple of steps and was down. I was using 78.0 grains of Norma MRP, scooting along at about 2,900 +/- FPS. The range on that elk was about 175 yards. I've been on six outfitted elk hunts in four western States. I have never had a guide or outfitter refer to the Nosler Partition bullet as a "tracker." I have certainly heard outfitters and guides talk about inaccurate shooting leading to "hard tracking." L.W.
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I'd like to see the elk shoulder that could stop a 210 .338 Partition.
Sign me up for that too! Maybe if the bullet drilled a tree trunk on the way! That actually happened to a friend of mine. He dropped a bull facing him with a 210 NP out of his .338 Win. Mag. - the bull fell behind a young pine tree. As the bull lay on the ground it looked up at my friend he fired a second shot that blew through the tree, then through the bull's shoulder, then through the rest, and out.
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