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I am planning a hunt to BC spring 2014 for black bear. We are in process of choosing a guide,(thanks for all the help with that!). I am afraid that my Rem 700 .270 is not enough gun, so, any opinions on what caliber would be the best. I am thinking of future big game, ie moose, maybe grizzly, possible mountain goat or sheep. I know that there is no magic gun for all of those situations, but what would be your suggestions?? I appreciate the help! Jeff

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Load your 270 with a 150 partition or a 140 tsx, and go kill a bear.

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Sounds like you "need" to build a .338-06! grin

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Originally Posted by Teeder
Sounds like you "need" to build a .338-06! grin

Or this smirk.

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Send me your 270 and I'll see that it's properly disposed of.

Last season one of the parties in our camp nailed two black bear with his 06. Both exhibited obvious signs of hard hits, and neither was ever recovered.

I dropped one in it's tracks using a 6mm Rem and an 85 grain slug.

Use the 270. My wife hammers elk with her's, and bear don't pack bullet proof vests.

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I hunt bear with a 444. The hornady 265 grain or Buffalo bore 270, 300 or 335 grain work great right out of the box and if ya reload you can even bring that up a notch.

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Originally Posted by Teeder
Sounds like you "need" to build a .338-06! grin


I absolutely LOVE that chambering, but his .270 is more than enough gun to do the job...

But if he just wants something else then he can't go wrong with that!




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No black bear will ever be able to tell the difference between a .270 150 gr. Nosler Partition and a bullet from a .338/06. If you want to buy a new rifle because it is more powerful on paper than your .270, by all means go ahead, but just remember that bears cannot read.


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Originally Posted by 1minute
Send me your 270 and I'll see that it's properly disposed of.

Last season one of the parties in our camp nailed two black bear with his 06. Both exhibited obvious signs of hard hits, and neither was ever recovered.

I dropped one in it's tracks using a 6mm Rem and an 85 grain slug.

Use the 270. My wife hammers elk with her's, and bear don't pack bullet proof vests.



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Originally Posted by prairie_goat
Load your 270 with a 150 partition or a 140 tsx, and go kill a bear.


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Originally Posted by wildhobbybobby
No black bear will ever be able to tell the difference between a .270 150 gr. Nosler Partition and a bullet from a .338/06. If you want to buy a new rifle because it is more powerful on paper than your .270, by all means go ahead, but just remember that bears cannot read.


I think you're missing the most important point. He "NEEDS" to buy a new gun, because his .270 is inadaquate. wink

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Originally Posted by JMasters
.....I am afraid that my Rem 700 .270 is not enough gun... Jeff


It's plenty.It makes them go "all loose"....You should ask people who have actually shot black bear with a 270.... wink

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Plus, the 270 is like a 70s porn star with a [bleep] of bush. Just not cool anymore.

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You guys are a hoot! Thanks for all the info. I was really just going on what was written on the outfitters websites, so The 270 will be going with me. Just wondering, would the 270 be big enough for moose??
thanks, Jeff

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Originally Posted by JMasters
You guys are a hoot! Thanks for all the info. I was really just going on what was written on the outfitters websites, so The 270 will be going with me. Just wondering, would the 270 be big enough for moose??
thanks, Jeff


Plenty. I've talked to Canadians who swear by their .270's and 150 grain Core-Lokts for moose. One guy claimed he penetrated a bull from stem to stern with that load.

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Originally Posted by JMasters
I am planning a hunt to BC spring 2014 for black bear. We are in process of choosing a guide,(thanks for all the help with that!). I am afraid that my Rem 700 .270 is not enough gun, so, any opinions on what caliber would be the best. I am thinking of future big game, ie moose, maybe grizzly, possible mountain goat or sheep. I know that there is no magic gun for all of those situations, but what would be your suggestions?? I appreciate the help! Jeff

Your 270 is more than adequate for black bear and is the classic sheep cartridge.

Make sure you can shoot your rifle well, the rifle itself is shooting well, and that you are familiar with the anatomy of your quarry.


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If you make a mess of a critters lungs it dies. If you can't hit the lungs - or brain - you may want to have something that will go through the shoulder bones and muscles and then into the lungs.

You don't always get a good view of the side of the critter. An outfitter/guide wants you to be able to take the animal from any good shot, so they will recommend a larger than needed round for liability when things don't work out as expected.

So, yes a .270 will take a moose or black bear as long as you do your part and use a good bullet and shoot the lungs. Good bullet is a very subjective term these days.

Kids up here in AK are taking moose and black bears with a .243, so you can do it with your .270.

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Originally Posted by JMasters
I am planning a hunt to BC spring 2014 for black bear. We are in process of choosing a guide,(thanks for all the help with that!). I am afraid that my Rem 700 .270 is not enough gun, so, any opinions on what caliber would be the best. I am thinking of future big game, ie moose, maybe grizzly, possible mountain goat or sheep. I know that there is no magic gun for all of those situations, but what would be your suggestions?? I appreciate the help! Jeff


I think a 300 magnum (any) covers those species well, also giving you good range capability. Maybe a little light for the grizzly. I like the 300WSM because it is light rifles.

That is my recommendation for something new. The 270 should be fine though.

For just black bear and grizzlies I would go 338, 35 Whelen, 350 Rem, 45/70, 325 WSM, 375, 9.3, 358, 444... in a rifle and sights for the terrain. IMO. Why take something smaller if you do not have to?

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Shoot a good bullet and you will be fine. Have a great hunt!

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Originally Posted by JMasters
You guys are a hoot! Thanks for all the info. I was really just going on what was written on the outfitters websites, so The 270 will be going with me. Just wondering, would the 270 be big enough for moose??
thanks, Jeff


Read this thread if you think your 270 isn't enough and see what scenarshooter is running.
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/6861040/1


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