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TAK that is not really apples to apples.

Today I put 100 rounds thru the new Kimber CPD II and 100 thru the new M&P .40 Vtac both shot without a hiccup and where good shooting to boot!

I don't think a smith at that level, ensuring a Bianchi Cup pistola is worthy of his name should be compared to an out of the box work gun.

I think a variety of ammo should be put through a duty gun before you go to work. Putting a number on it is a bit silly IMO.


Travis

I'm not building or shooting Bianchi Cup, but I will not even consider utilizing a gun for defense purposes until I have several hundred rounds through it. That number will likely be closer to the 1k mark before it bumps something else from the rotation.

I can work more to fund ammo, a failure at the wrong time has a much higher cost.

George

I worked in a large gun shop back in the early 70's. We sold a lot of pistols and no one expected to need a "break-in" period before a gun functioned properly. Then came the Colt Series 70 .45 Auto. Customers complained about poor accuracy and guns not cycling properly from the get go. Colt's answer was that the Series 70 needed a "200 round break-in" for the new bushing to seat properly. I have never heard of any other gun that the manufacturer said a break-in period was required for proper function.

You certainly don't know what your friend is doing. Extended shooting for a competion pistol has little or nothing to do with reliability - it's done to settle in the mechanical precision. Groups will open slightly as parts mate and the gunsmith will keep working the pistol until it stabilizes where he wants it.

As for the OP, multi-hundred round break-ins are good for those that don't know how to do it correctly.

New Kahr pm9, no break in, no failures, 5 years owned. If a gun dont run out of the box for me, it's gone. I like glocks for sure, Old SIGs are good, new SIGs not so much.

Which is even more goofy than 500-round break-ins. I don't even fire any type of new-to-me firearm - shotgun, rifle, or handgun - without going through it first

I won't speak for others, but it's not about "break-in" for me. It's more about confidence in the individual weapon.

I knew that my 229 wasn't going to have any issues when we replaced our old .45s. I damn sure wasn't going to just strap it on and go. I shot the schit out of it and trusted it before I put it on daily.

George

And that's a flat-out great reason.

I guess I don't understand why anyone is bitching about shooting a gun too much. 200rds is a pretty short range trip. No way in hell I am gonna carry a pistol that I haven't run at least 500, preferably a thousand through.

As for not dry firing, that's simply silly. Dry firing builds skills, plain and simple.

In regards to dry -fire, absolutely!

I'm fairly certain i could find 200 rounds of loose .45 in my truck and range bags

Absolutely. 200rds is such a small number, I guess it boggles me that this is a concern at all.

That's as it should be, but for manufacturers or 'smiths to say a gun needs breaking in to make it run right is CYA for poor workmanship. Period.

MM

TAK,

The only BS here is what's running out of your mouth & between your ears & your ignorance & what you don't know shows with virtually every post.

You're a sort of smart guy, but obviously you are enamored by yourself & competition.

You don't say whether or not your famous gunsmith friend's guns run from the get go or not or whether he has to rework them but I can tell you for a fact that a "normal" tuned 1911 should,can & will do so.

If you don't know that, then there's not much more I can say to you.

Obviously, I've never built guns for famous Bianchi Cup shooters, but I've laid hands on enough of them to know.

Problem is, it's the ones like you that don't know, that like to run their mouths the most.

And please, don't give me any more BS about being an instructor.......doesn't have a thing to do with guns working or not.

MM

I am sure this is the same gunsmith who convinced him that a full length guide rod makes the barrel lockup better, resulting in more accuracy in a 1911.

Laughin' here

MM

I think we can all rememeber examples of shoddy work that needed some TLC to get working right but some guns have a rep for simply running right from the first round.

I picked up a Rossi 92 in .45LC that would so rough cycling the lever it was unreal. I tore it apart and the machine work was so rough I cannot accurately describe it, rough edges everywhere. I cleaned the heck out of it and spend a few hours deburring and it was like a different gun.

What impresses me is when a LE agency gets new guns and they are up and running with minimal problems. When you see a hundred shooters with varied skills and techniques take guns out of the box, throw some CLP on them and then run the crap out of them and see zero failures for a combined 10-20 thousand rounds it sticks in your mind.

I agree
but how would you know if you didn't try 'em?

I like to shoot
A LOT
so 200 rounds is a light day at the range for any of my guns.
Usually more like 400!

I can't imagine any LE agency converting to a new gun and telling their officers that they need to shoot 200 rounds through them before they work right. The FOP would be screaming about endangering their lives with sub-standard equipment.