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I agree completely. I was just saying that I was surprised by the number of shooters RJM witnessed the 5 in 3 stage.


Travis

A lot of people I know can draw and fire one shot from the holster in 1.5 seconds...repeat shots at that point are usually in the .25 to .40 area...so four more shots adds only 1 to 1.5 seconds.

It was why a lot more shooters made the two shots in 1.75 seoconds than made the one shot in 1.25 seconds...their second shot took a lot less time once the gun was up and going.

Bob

Agreed...........but the mag drop & re-insertion & the drop of the slide is where the time comes in.

The actual shooting time is not an issue, especially from the ready position.

MM

I looked and that mag change stage is one that I didn't adjust the time on. We might need to adjust the time on it if the judge seems necessary.

I'm gonna really try and get to the range tomorrow afternoon.

I hit the hills today, ran through most of it (the 'long range' stuff will be easy) to get a feel.
I was using my Security-Six with mid-power LSWCs.
I've only shot weak-hand once before, in our last 24 contest. I'll have to practice a little. I could make the time OK, but my shots were stringing just left off the paper.
I need to practice for the hostage target, also. I nicked one guy's cheekbone, blasted through the other's eye socket edge, and gave one a sore shoulder. Those were 3, 4, & 5 after two perfect centers, so maybe I got cocky! But I was well within time, so I should be able to put that one together easily.
So, I'll be able to do everything but the reload stage. I haven't practiced that skill, either. I tried shooting with a pair of cartridges in my left hand, but I didn't come close to closing the cylinder before time expired. Then I tried it with a Sig 9, kept trying to (unnecessarily) pull out the mag.
I can't guarantee to myself that I'll pass that one ever.

Overall, fun.
But I'm slower than I was when I was in my practicing prime!


Do we have to run the whole deal through successfully, or are we allowed to patch together successful pieces?

macrabbit,

You can do the course in stages.

Bonus points for using a Security Six...


Travis

We are mere mortals. I beg of you, lords, kings, and judges.

I've got an idea-- take 10 seconds from the 50-yd stage and add them to the reload stage. The total time will be equal, everyone will be happy, and no one the wiser.

10 seconds!?!?!?!? You'd better be able to relaid an extra three times....

It's up to Deflave. I've recorded changing it to 5 seconds. That'll give you 1.75 for each two shots and 1.5 seconds for a reload.

Printing up the hostage target now, confirm on the 25 and 50 yard stages what positions are acceptable?

25 yards is standing unsupported.

At 50 yards we can use barricades for support. No bench resting, just use something to simulate cover and also use it for support.

I just can't slip anything past you, can I?


My print-out of the course was in 5. Had it been listed even faster originally? Yeek!

I'll have to design a forearm-mounted magazine holder, so I can just slam a pistol down against an upright magazine. And maybe fiddle with the gun so that inserting a mag drops the slide.
Or maybe have an assistant on each side of me, one to press the mag release, one to slide in a new mag, the first to drop slide-- bip-schlunk-whack -- while I maintain stance and aim.

I'm shooting this today...standby for video.

50 and 25 are done.

Pants?



Travis

Yes. It was sunny, didn't wanna burn.

Well I can't figure out how to get the video loaded.

I passed everything but the weak hand shots. Couldn't get that below 4.5 seconds. Did the reload in 4.1. Hostage shots were all below 1.5 seconds.

Anybody know how to link a video from photobucket without allowing access to my whole account?

I'm in trouble...

No.

Just make youtube account and use that.


Travis

Winner is announced. Actual field shooting, multi gun, timed and calculated. Paper doesn't count as much as flesh and bone...

Back in the day when I was an Embassy Marine, the standard we trained to was 2 shots in 2 seconds, from a snapped holster. Distance 3 yards.

We had other stages at 3, 7, 15, and 25 yards. Model 19 Smith & Wesson, all DA of course.

After my embassy tours I taught at Quantico for a couple years, training Marines for Embassy Duty. It always amazed me how well training works. We practiced the draw, and dry fired more times than you can imagine, before going to the range. Some students had bloody blisters on their trigger fingers, just from the dry firing. But it sure did instill muscle memory.