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http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public..._id=9cde768f-bb3a-4fd9-8176-1745c21519c2

Briefly, they claim they have 263 million rounds in inventory, they use 88 million rounds a year for training, and buy 105'ish million a year.

Interesting numbers... but nowhere near 1.6 billion rounds.

Though the numbers do seem to indicate they are building up their inventory by 18 million rounds a year? And why do they need 3 years worth of ammo stored in inventory?

Perhaps they are convinced that there is some nefarious plot on the part of the public to buy up all of the ammunition so that they cannot get ahold of any.

I can just see an agency posting on whatever website used by the various departments and self-righteously congratulating itself for being wise enough to see this coming and calling those agencies who did not stock up ahead of time all sorts of condescending names and excoriating them for being so short-sighted.

88 million rounds in training ; that is for how many people going through this training ???

Couple of departments there say they allocate 1000 rounds per firearm per year for qualification and training, so that would be LEO's qualified on 88,000 firearms in total?

The answer that they have given for this question is that they can lock in low prices if they order for the long term. Rather than paying x.xx now for a box of (insert ammo here), and having to pay y.yy for the same box of ammo next year, and so on and so on, they can buy up all the ammo that they need for the next 5 years or so at a low price now.

Not that it's a valid excuse, it's just the one that they are giving right now...

Reminds me of a book that I was given one time about financial planning. The author's advice for accumulating unfathomable wealth was to fill in the space under your bed with cans of tuna purchased on sale.

And how MUCH are they paying for the storage facilities and the security for it? Can't visualize how big 260 million rounds would be, but I know it ain't gonna fit in a storage unit and I know DHS doesn't have armories with vaults.

They don't? That's interesting.

Are you aware that DHS is compromised of multiple, separate entities?


Travis

I know that when I was in the army, we used old abandoned bunkers for ammo storage. Didn't cost a thing.

Who knows where these guys are storing their stuff. Knowing the hypocrisy that they excel at, they are probably paying rent at the Balagio...

Don't their buildings have attics?

This way they can give out grants of ammunition to various LE organizations. Of course, that's in exchange for some sort of fealty, just like every other Fed "grant".

I seriously doubt they get any price break on 105 million rounds versus say, 90 million rounds. Economic order quantities do have a limit.

Well, let's examine that.

Customs Agents at a Port of Entry in southern California would store their ammunition for training and qualification where? In some magic DHS bunker? Or their own armory?


Travis

Are you aware I posted a link which breaks down the ammo purchases, inventory and usage year by year for each of those entities?

In the same spot they store the fuel for their silent running black helicopters, Travis.

Dude, you totally suck at this conspiracy thing...

Their bunker is no secret. It's under the grassy knoll...

Your breakdown doesn't identify all the necessary storage facilities though, does it?

Are you suggesting if there are only 10 DHS entities they couldn't have more than 10 storage facilities?

How much does the average shooter have in there inventory?

Yes I did. So I'm confused as to why you are pondering the location of an armory that has the capacity to house 260 millions rounds of ammunition.


Travis

Doesn't identify any storage facilities. Guess I was thinking centralized storage areas, I suppose if they have 250,000 rounds split up between 1,000 locations the storage isn't difficult. I'm more used to thinking of my military days with large freaking ammo vaults and bunkers being available.

Wonder what an audit of those inventories would turn up for actual rounds? In other words, with the current prices I wonder how much walks...

Dude, you full well know that the secret DHS bunker is in Area 51. Right where the Alien slave laborers built it....geez!