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Originally Posted by MadMooner
Who'd of thought this woulda turned to [bleep] after the first post!

IMO-

All gov pensions should start at 62. I couldn't get enough guts together to begrudge a retired military vet his pension, they were earned.

GS is another story. But hell, ain't nothing stopping me from doing the same, so I won't begrudge them their choice.

I will vote, and push my elected officials, to eliminate A LOT of .gov positions however.

The waste is EPIC.


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Federal government has not been in recession since O took over. Been many years since I've heard of an ex government worker drawing unemployment or welfare. Once a government worker, always a government worker.


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I should have added that I also pay for 100% of my supplement to medicare (part of SS which I pay $100 monthly for) and 100% of my Wife's health insurance. No State help there except for being part of a group plan. Not much gravy there but since we live pretty simple, we get by pretty good. miles


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I worked for the US Forest Service for a while. My immediate boss lost his privelages of actually leaving the office and going out on the national forst property because he was convicted in a $400k timber theft scheme where he marked timber not in a timber sale for a cut. His job was to determine what would be thinned, harvested, burned etc...He got to keep his job, he just couldn't do his job. The only reason he wasn't allowed on the national forest was a judge ordered that, not the USFS. The entire reason they hired me was to go out and be the eyes and ears for my boss lol.

That was 18 years ago and I heard 2-3 years ago that he was still working for the USFS.


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Didn't realize that there was so many tax feeders on this forum.

It explains a lot,... a *whole* lot.

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Originally Posted by eh76
Originally Posted by MadMooner
Who'd of thought this woulda turned to [bleep] after the first post!

IMO-

All gov pensions should start at 62. I couldn't get enough guts together to begrudge a retired military vet his pension, they were earned.

GS is another story. But hell, ain't nothing stopping me from doing the same, so I won't begrudge them their choice.

I will vote, and push my elected officials, to eliminate A LOT of .gov positions however.

The waste is EPIC.


Yep!


Not sure about the government workers, but I know our union pension is geared towards 62 or 65, but then we voted to put more of our wages into the union early retirement system. I might be able to go out when I'm 56. Now I won't get the same monthly benefit as I would if I stayed on until 62, but for those who can afford to make the leap at 55, I say congrats, go live life!







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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Didn't realize that there was so many tax feeders on this forum.

It explains a lot,... a *whole* lot.


We all can't be men leading lives of quite desperation.


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Gov workers have a sense of entitlement. I have rarely met anyone with a good work ethic with the exception of those in the military. I believe if you get a government pension you should not be allowed to get social security you get one or the other but not both that is down right dishonest and its a slap in the face to all the hard workers in the private sector.


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Not yet, anyway.

Yours will come when the gummint tit goes dry.

You're young.

You'll live to see it.

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Originally Posted by Rogmatt
Gov workers have a sense of entitlement. I have rarely met anyone with a good work ethic with the exception of those in the military. I believe if you get a government pension you should not be allowed to get social security you get one or the other but not both that is down right dishonest and its a slap in the face to all the hard workers in the private sector.


I get both and a VA disability too boot. I'm laffin all the way to the bank, ha, ha,

I'm not stupid, if I'm entitled to it, I'm going to collect it.

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Originally Posted by Rogmatt
Gov workers have a sense of entitlement. I have rarely met anyone with a good work ethic with the exception of those in the military. I believe if you get a government pension you should not be allowed to get social security you get one or the other but not both that is down right dishonest and its a slap in the face to all the hard workers in the private sector.


OK, but I'm also gonna stop paying into SS.

Or do you feel entitled to me paying for your SS for you?


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your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Not yet, anyway.

Yours will come when the gummint tit goes dry.

You're young.

You'll live to see it.


And what do you think will happen to your own retirement account (if you're actually smart enough to have one) when, as you say, "the gummint tit goes dry"?

Here's a news flash Bristoe, old boy - if the Government collapses, no one will be left with a pot to piss in.

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Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Not yet, anyway.

Yours will come when the gummint tit goes dry.

You're young.

You'll live to see it.


And what do you think will happen to your own retirement account (if you're actually smart enough to have one) when, as you say, "the gummint tit goes dry"?

Here's a news flash Bristoe, old boy - if the Government collapses, no one will be left with a pot to piss in.


Not a question of if but when. In case you haven't figured it out we're bankrupt and the reason for that is entitlements.

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Originally Posted by PSE
Someone's a bit jealous!!


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Tomorrow morning when you wake up and are not speaking Arabic, thank a government worker. The private sector does not do much to keep us speaking English.

Allen


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Hey Allen, I paid one helluva lot of money into .gov the last 25 years. Think you forgot who keeps the lights on in this country. I am all for having .gov workers quit paying any kind of income taxes whatsoever. Reduce their pay by the same amount of course. Otherwise they start thinking they contribute, when indeed they are just an expense.

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Originally Posted by AHF
Tomorrow morning when you wake up and are not speaking Arabic, thank a government worker. The private sector does not do much to keep us speaking English.

Allen


Does not do much? Where does the money come from to pay the government worker's income and benefits?


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Not yet, anyway.

Yours will come when the gummint tit goes dry.

You're young.

You'll live to see it.


No I will not, but I'm sure you will. You will sit and whinge while those that can do for themselves will step to the fore and take responsibility and keep everyone fed and safe.

After the waters settle the whingers will ooze forward and vilify the doers and worm their way back into control, it is how the world works.


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The private sector keeps us moving and progressing, the .gov sector makes sure the private sector has a safe place to do its job.
Do you disagree?
Allen


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Methinks we should eliminate the military today. Good luck with that 401k


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