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Unfortunately, it did not. If it had it would be pretty clear from which angle the shot was fired.
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Hispanic technically just means someone is from a Spanish speaking country whatever their original ethnic background. I've had a lot of clients from Mexico included red haired ones named o'hara and Viking looking ones with German names. They come in all sizes shapes and colors down there just like they do in the us
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I'm still wanting to know what load Zimmerman was using in the 9mm that night Winchester Hollow points.
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It seems to me that the judge might make a better traffic court judge.
I have watched most all of this thing and she sure has had a hard on for the defense.
Now Z's team will have to put all of their plans into action.
Shouldn't have been charged in the first place.
Wonder when the judge comes up for re-election again?
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Can the defense put those (former) officials who didn't think there was anything to charge Zimmerman with on the witness stand?
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Maybe Z could get an endorsement deal with Winchester.
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Can the defense put those (former) officials who didn't think there was anything to charge Zimmerman with on the witness stand? One of 'em is the lead off witness Monday, according to Fox.
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Can the defense put those (former) officials who didn't think there was anything to charge Zimmerman with on the witness stand? They can call them to give testimony or evidence as to facts, but not to opine on whether the case should have been brought.
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There was something reported about the State's handpicked attorneys being under investigation for withholding some stuff during the discovery process. The trial judge is going to pursue it AFTER a verdict in this trial.
This may be a strategy by the defense to get that in front of the jury via the original lawyers.
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There is NO WAY that judge is ever not going to give this to the jury with as much help as she can give the State.
She doesn't want to be a target of the riots after.
Neither will the jury. Zimmerman stands a significant chance of being convicted. The legal system offers no guaranty to exonerate the innocent or condemned the guilty because the legal system is driven by societal and cultural opinion, bias, and whims of humanity. The same controlling factor that's generated every mess in history and continues to do so.
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A mighty astute observation. Especially taking into account the time of day it was posted.
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[quote=plainsman456]It seems to me that the judge might make a better traffic court judge. I have watched most all of this thing and she sure has had a hard on for the defense. Now Z's team will have to put all of their plans into action. Shouldn't have been charged in the first place. Wonder when the judge comes up for re-election again?[/quote In Missouri most judges were unsuccessful as attorneys, ran for office unopposed, appointed or were successful as a politician. Suspect that is also true in the rest of the country. GW
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There is NO WAY that judge is ever not going to give this to the jury with as much help as she can give the State.
She doesn't want to be a target of the riots after.
Neither will the jury. Zimmerman stands a significant chance of being convicted. The legal system offers no guaranty to exonerate the innocent or condemned the guilty because the legal system is driven by societal and cultural opinion, bias, and whims of humanity. The same controlling factor that's generated every mess in history and continues to do so. That is simply not correct. You may get cases that slide through the cracks, but with this much scrutiny, there is no way it would not be appealed all the way to the Supremes. Z walks totally or it was a setup from the word "Go" and the whole thing was about much, much more than Travon Martin as it speaks to the right of an individual to defend himself. The Prosecution has already raised Reasonable Doubt themselves. I don't see where the Defense even needs to bring witnesses, let alone allow Z to testify. The case should never have been brought and should be dismissed post-haste. It's already a mockery of Justice.
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As many have said, the case is just preposterous. Consider the following points the prosecution has made lately:
When Martin was shot it probably really, really hurt for a while.
Zimmerman was so reckless that he had a gun that could be fired simply by pulling the trigger.
Martin's DNA and fingerprints were not on Zimmerman's gun.
The prosecution is grasping at straws, and hoping to play on general ignorance of how firearms work.
Monday, the defense gets to start putting on their case.
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Politics will outweigh the facts..............sadly.
As bad as the judge is, I wouldn't bet against a directed verdict of some sort.
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As many have said, the case is just preposterous. Consider the following points the prosecution has made lately:
When Martin was shot it probably really, really hurt for a while.
Zimmerman was so reckless that he had a gun that could be fired simply by pulling the trigger.
Martin's DNA and fingerprints were not on Zimmerman's gun.
The prosecution is grasping at straws, and hoping to play on general ignorance of how firearms work.
Monday, the defense gets to start putting on their case.
Yeah, I noticed that, too. My gosh, not only was his handgun "fully loaded," but had one in the chamber like a murderer would. Not only that, the thing had no manual safety, which proves he wanted to be able to kill people without taking a moment to think about it. Scandalous!
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And there you have it, comparing OJ to this trial.....
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