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Originally Posted by Steelhead


Folks would be so much better if the just said 'because I want to' with out stupid attempts at validation.




^^^^
This.



Ive done plenty of the new school speed kills route...happily.
Ive done plenty of old school, big heavy slow bullets kill route too....happily.

Will do more of both, because I want to.


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You got me on a roll now Jwall, grin

First off, most of you guys are serious rifle shooters. Me? I just screw around with them. Fact is before I came to the fire, I screwed around with them a lot less. Shotguns took up the majority of my time. The fire definitely lighted the fire to shoot rifles more. Shotguns are often work for me, with rifles hours seem to fly by in a blink. I don't intend to ruin that by making it work, so while I've learned more about rifles since I joined then I ever thought there was to be learned, I'm not a serious student of the art.

However, after shooting more than a few Deer over 50 years here in Pa. and being in on the kill of probably more than twice that many, I do know what works in the wood and some of the BS does strike me as humorous.

Again not directed at you personally, just a general observation of what often goes on here.

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Glad we didn't get into the 'brush busting' part of the discussion. grin


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Originally Posted by jwall


I don't intend to be hateful, arrogant, nor condescending.

You & I STILL have the privilege of choosing to hunt & how.



Mr. Battue:

I sincerely meant that I did not have bad intentions.

I'm NOT SURE if you OR I misunderstood the other. I'll take the credit for misunderstanding you.

As you know 'misunderstandings' are common not only here but a lot of other places as well.
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Yes we do agree, and I hope that continues.

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Now you done it, the seed is in the ground. laugh


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OK, now lets talk about brush busting qualities grin


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Exactly. Why do some people hunt with flintlocks, or with black powder cartridge rifles, or a 1903 Springfield sporter and a 2-1/2x Lyman Alaskan? Or for that matter a longbow.

Other people hunt with the absolute limit in technology, whether a compound bow capable of killing at 80 yards, a muzzleloader with a 3-9x scope using pellets and sabots, or a modern rifle with a "tactical" scope, fast-twist barrel shooting ultra-high BC bullets, and a ballistic program on their smartphone.

Now, there are some hunters who think they're morally or intellectually superior because they use a flintlock or super-scope. Apparently that's how some humans will always be--again, because they want to. But it's really stupid to call somebody else stupid because they choose to hunt with a flintlock, longbow or round-nosed bullet.


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Have fun Jerry, the ride and journey is a short one.

Again, I didn't take offense to anything you or anyone else wrote on the subject.
Well there was one, but he was just pissing in the wind. wink

Harry

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The 7x57 IS morally, intellectually, and panache-wise superior to all others. With or without RNs laugh



Because I want it to be.... grin


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Originally Posted by ingwe
OK, now lets talk about brush busting qualities grin
Need more popcorn now. grin


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Just don't try to 'gay it up' with a .270 RN....


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UH-OH I've shot 160 gr NP's in my .270 Winchester/Weatherby. Those are Semi-Spitzers though not RN's. grin



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Doesn't count unless you have shot threw a 4in sapling, killed the Deer on the other side and got a limit of Grouse and a 25 pound Turkey with the fragments.



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In my experience just about any centerfire rifle bullet will bust brush. It's hitting and killing some animal on the far side of the brush that's the problem.


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Ahh, I see a tiny green sprout. Ingwe uses nothing but the most fertile of seeds....


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Originally Posted by ingwe
Just don't try to 'gay it up' with a .270 RN....


Oh sheet! Am I a closet type and don't know it??? Honest I really do like MILF's!!


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer


Now, there are some hunters who think they're morally or intellectually superior......


Whew! Glad I don't havta worry about that!!!!! smile


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Just loaded some Winchester 150 gr Power Points for a 99F 308W. The bag says FN but they look like RN's to me. Looking forward to seeing how they shoot.

Out near Sinnemahoning, PA there are a few 100 yard chances.


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99, Years ago, I had a couple pals that lived up in that country near Sinnemahoning.. Both were dedicated long range shooters.. One of them knocked off a buck with his 7x61 S & H target rifle at just over 800 yards!!
Beautiful country there.. You still deer hunt that territory??
The land of endless mountains.. Have a good one..


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Talking about bullets I was looking at an old Handloader from 1966.. Hornady offered 66 different bullets 28 were either round nose or flat nose bullets.. There were a total of 2 boat tails, both were match bullets.. Times have changed..


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