Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters Swift Scirooco's, How good are they?

I've just ordered some today from Swift.
Any experience with them?

I've just taken notice to these bullets. Swift offer's or advertise;

80% weight retention.
Accuracy is sub minute.
They will open up down to 1,700 fps.
Very high BC�s, take note....224 75 grain is .419 this would turn the Swift or 22-250 into a whole new animal.
6.5 130's are .571 .308 180's are .520
Price value for 100 bullets.

These bullets would seem to compete with the Barnes TSX
maybe giving up some weight to the TSX but holding an big edge in BC and being able to reliably open up at a lower velocity. Barnes open up at 2000 fps?
How will the Swift penetrate in regards to Barnes?
For the long range hunter/shooter they would seem to offer
a whole lot more yardage flexibility.

They are also less expensive than Barnes bullets. I can save $18.00 to $20.00 per box of 100.

A gun-maker friend with a Juenke tester says they're "perfect" according to his tests on the Juenke.

FWIW

Shot my Mulie Buck last year down near Bethel Ridge with a 135gr Scirocco out of my .270 WIN. 180yd shot, bullet did not exit. Retained about 91% of original weight, both of them.
I'm extremely happy. I will be trying the Accubond this year on some Whitetails.

SPAD

" gun-maker friend with a Juenke tester says they're "perfect" according to his tests on the Juenke."

Thank you for your reply Ken.

This tells me the Swift company pays attention to the smallest details. I'll bet the inside of the bullet compares with the outside.

Thanks for the input SPAD, I've hunted elk down on the Bethel a few years ago. Saw some some nice mule deer there at the time.

Swift uses a Juenke machine to test the production runs of Sciroccos, so it is not surprising they test very well. They have on my Juenke machine as well.

While they will retain a high percentage of weight, Sciroccos open very widely (like any bonded bullet without a super-thick sidewall or solid shank to retard expansion) so they will not come close to the penetration of a Barnes TSX, or many other bullets that have some means of retarding expansion along the shank, such as the Nosler Partition.

In fact, they were not designed as a deep-penetrating bullet. They were designed as a bullet for deer-sized game, though of course they will kill much larger game if they don't have to penetrate super-deeply. (See the post from SPAD above; this is very typical of Scirocco performance.)

If you want deeper penetration, Swift recommends their A-Frame. If you want deeper penetration out of a high-BC bullet with a plastic tip, the I would recommend the Nosler AccuBond. It is designed with very heavy sidewalls to retard expansion, so does not open up as widely as the Scirocco and penetrates deeper, about like a Partition of the same weight. It also tests essentially perfect on the Juenke machine.

MD

Sounds like an ideal bullet for my .257 Roy, if they only made one in that diameter. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Would you recommend the Accubond for long range pronghorn out of the .257? Been shooting Partitions but always on the lookout for something new to try.

Thanks,
Jeff M.

MD,

Excellent information on the differences in bullets. This really helps in getting a perspective for bullet use.

I'll be testing them out in my 264 with mule deer in mind.

Thank you!

I think they are very competitive with the Hornady Interbond and Nosler Accubond. I've shot all these bullets with great success for accuracy. I've killed large deer with the Accubond and the terminal effects were tremendous. I assume the same results would be forthcoming from the Sciroccos and Interbonds due to their similarity in construction. The Barnes TSX is completely different construction; being monolithic and not of bonded construction. My experience with the 168gr. TSX in 30 cal. has been the best yet. Super accurate and better penetration than any other 180gr. 30 cal bullet I have fired through my 300 WM.

Jeff--

The 110 AccuBond should be great in the .257 Roy. As a matter of fact, I am about to try some myself in that very caliber.

Have seen a lot of AccuBonds work on game, and they do seem to act about like Partitions when they hit--a good thing, in my estimation. They are normally very accurate, often in my experience even more accurate than Ballistic Tips.

For the greatest pentration TSX's can't be beat, but there's also no reason for all that penetration on many of the animals we hunt, unless of course we are asking a smaller chambering to step up out of its normal class.

MD

So . . .

A 150 TSX is used on Elk to achieve penetration out to 250 yards in say a 308 Winchester?

BMT

BTW-Hi Dr. Howell!

Glad to have you back among the Juenke Junkies!

You were missed!

BMT

BMT, I'd say that 350yds would still work... unless you hit the alotta bone!!

Three-Hunnert and Fifty yards . . .

I ain't that good a shot . . . .

Under Field Conditions . . . . .

All sweaty and worked up . . . . .

Chasing the stinking beasts over the Coast Range . . . .

In the Rain . . . . .(grin)

BMT

I am going to shoot the Scirrocco II's in my .243 and 25 WSSM this year as long as all the testing works out as planned. I am going to shoot the Interbond's in my 270 WSM, 7mm-08 and 300 SAUM.

If you are one who wants a bullet to hit hard, and expend most of it's energy "within" the animal, the Scirocco is at the top of it's class. A bullet designed to do the above is just about a "perfect" deer sized game bullet.

How do the Fusions compare to the other bonded bullets? Penetration, weight retention and sidewall thickness as comparisons which other bullet (Interbond, Scirocco and Accubond) do they resemble the most? Thanks Sam

BMT--

From what I have seen, a 150 TSX from a .308 would be just fine on elk, at any range you could place the shot decently.

Montana Sam--

The Fusions don't have thick sidewalls, so tend to open up wide. They act much like any of the thinner-jacketed bonded bullets, such as the Core-Lokt Ultra, Interbond, and Scirocco, opening up wide.

The AccuBond has a thicker jacket along the sidewalls, and tends to act like a Nosler Partition: opening up to a smaller front and retaining more shank. Thus it tends to penetrate deeper.

MD

MD, any word on when a 6.5 mm offering may be available in the Accubond?

Thanx John.

So many choices . . . . . . .

So many opinions from experienced professionals . . . .

Not enough hunting . . . . . . .

BMT

Thanks Mule Deer. I emailed Federal last night and they said the bullet was really designed for deer, but would work 'ok' for elk. I just read Petzal's article in the May Field & Stream and he says, I quote:
"a lot of people who don't know that you 'need' premium bullets to do so will kill a great many elk, moose, and black bears with these slugs."
I guess it really comes down to the all important shot placement issue. Sam