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10mm is just too good I a cartridge to not have. At some point I'll add one to the stable again. These days my fav center fire is my .38 Super. Shoots flat and is uber-accurate. Not sure what I need a 10mm for, but I want one nonetheless. Prolly add a .40 barrel and maybe even a .357 Sig for when ammo gets tight. Nice to have options.

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Originally Posted by Reloder28
Originally Posted by safariman
Yep, my older one took LOTS of work to make it 'right' and even after all of that my fairly new RIA Tactical 10 is easily its equal and probably the equal of a new Colt 10mm.


Typical Colt product.


Tell me about it!

My Colt is so [bleep] stupid it doesn't know it shouldn't be working.


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My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Originally Posted by KevinGibson
10mm is just too good I a cartridge to not have. At some point I'll add one to the stable again. These days my fav center fire is my .38 Super. Shoots flat and is uber-accurate. Not sure what I need a 10mm for, but I want one nonetheless. Prolly add a .40 barrel and maybe even a .357 Sig for when ammo gets tight. Nice to have options.


One day all the 10mm fans will admit they shoot sub-40 speeds 90% of the time.

Except the ones that don't.


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Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I have 1911's in 38 super,45ACP,10mm and 460 Rowland. I have fun with all of them. Pro and cons on all.

Have no use for 40's.

Have no use for stricker guns either.

Plastic is for tampex applicators. Both my wife and girlfriend use 40's in plastic guns. They love them. They are too old to use the tampons.


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Nobody accused you of being bright.



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Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Yeah, but no sugar,just put a 1/2 cap of Hoppe's in it. No, make that a full cap. My head hurts.


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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by KevinGibson
10mm is just too good I a cartridge to not have. At some point I'll add one to the stable again. These days my fav center fire is my .38 Super. Shoots flat and is uber-accurate. Not sure what I need a 10mm for, but I want one nonetheless. Prolly add a .40 barrel and maybe even a .357 Sig for when ammo gets tight. Nice to have options.


One day all the 10mm fans will admit they shoot sub-40 speeds 90% of the time.

Except the ones that don't.


Travis
For self defense, the 10mm lite makes a LOT of sense. There's no empirical evidence that full power loads stop better, but they do have that additional noise, flash, and recoil. For hunting, the full power 10mm gives you heavier bullets for deeper penetration.

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Originally Posted by deflave
Nobody accused you of being bright.



Travis


Obvious conclusion............

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Kevin-

It is true what you say about stopping power on humans. Evidence that is.


Their has been some studies involving penetration and stopping humans through windshields. The 10mm shines in that respect.

Good for LEO's


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Originally Posted by Gibby

Good for LEO's


99.5% of LEO's can't shoot well enough to handle the 10mm...........that's exactly why they don't have them & that helped create the 40 S&W.

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Yep,sad but true. That is why we carry!!!

Some do stay proficient. Not all.

Like you said .5% maybe

That is changing.



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I have to challenge this. I'm not saying the average cop is an expert marksman, but at the very least, the 40 S&W has to have a 30% share of the LE market in the USA. That's without looking anything up, but...at least 30%. You really think that the 40 is that easier to shoot in factory trim than the 10 in factory trim? I don't.

The FBI came out with the 40 to address recoil issues amongst some of their smaller agents, especially women. That doesn't mean or equate to nearly all LE agents though.

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I never could figure out the reason for the 10MM.

As far as self-defense and busting windshields and going through soft skin autos the .38 Super will do the job just fine and the recoil is easier to handle. If windshields and soft skin autos aren't on the menu than the .45 Auto gets the job done and most people including women can handle the recoil just fine. My wife just shoot handguns very often and her preferred handgun is her .22lr but even she can and does shot my 1911 in .45 Auto.

Nothing against the 10MM but except for hunting is the 10MM is really needed.

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If I just could have one, it would be a 45 ACP. But I love 1911's. So I have more. We have hogs on the property now. It took three hits from a 45 to drop a sow with piglets that wanted a piece of me. She was hopped up because of her youn'ns. I carry a Delta now on the farm loaded with hard cast.
I have one better too. Converted one 1911 to the 460 Rowland.

NOW THAT'S A GUN!!!


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Anyone have or know anything about either the Kimber Stainless Target II or the Para 6" in 10mm? I have a SSII in .38 Super and it is a fantastic shooter...

Back in 1980 when I went from .45 to Super in 1911s, if the 10mm had been avaialble it is probably the way I would have gone...

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
I have to challenge this. I'm not saying the average cop is an expert marksman, but at the very least, the 40 S&W has to have a 30% share of the LE market in the USA. That's without looking anything up, but...at least 30%. You really think that the 40 is that easier to shoot in factory trim than the 10 in factory trim? I don't.

The FBI came out with the 40 to address recoil issues amongst some of their smaller agents, especially women. That doesn't mean or equate to nearly all LE agents though.


You're entitled to your opinion, even though you are wrong. grin

Probably should have qualified my comments on LE........I was mainly referring to locals & sheriffs.

And yes, depending in the gun, I think there is a noticeable difference between the 10mm & the 40 S&W.

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Years ago, and I mean years ago, the cops were the worst shooters on the range. It seems that has changed now. Many are good shots. Many are gun enthusiasts too.


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Originally Posted by Gibby
Years ago, and I mean years ago, the cops were the worst shooters on the range. It seems that has changed now. Many are good shots. Many are gun enthusiasts too.


Well, I surely wouldn't say that "many" of the locals or sheriffs are good shooters or enthusiasts, IMO.

That changes somewhat at the State & certain Fed agencies level.

Still, most are not what I'd call enthusiasts........I know a Sgt. for a sheriff's dept. who's won 2 state championships & competed very well at Camp Perry, former Marine shooter, but he can scarcely maintain his guns. That's not what I classify as an enthusiast.

Took a local LEO, nephew of one of my pards, to the range a while back; he brought several guns, at 25 feet most of his targets looked like a shotgun pattern. He surely didn't know a thing about maintaining his guns either nor did he reload.

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Your right montana. "many" may be a poor choice of words.

They do not take care of their guns very well. I know this for sure. Back when they all change from revolvers to autos their were a lot of crappy Model 10,28's on the market.

I guess they did not want to spend time every day at end of shift to wipe them down.

That is one advantage to have a plastic gun. About the only advantage I can think of.


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