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I bought a billet upper and lower receiver and was intending on building this gun with a 20" pencil barrel an M16 stock and triangle handguards, or perhaps even an M2 style handguard.

Several people told me this wouldn't look right. If you have a picture of anything similar, I would like to see it for myself.

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To me, no it wouldn't look right. Billet has to be built bigger and most look blocky. A better fit would be a heavier free floated match barrel.

But if that's what you want then have at it. Build what you want.

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Heavy lower and light barrel seems reversed of what you'd want.

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Thanks guys! I'd still like to see a picture of something similar if it's ever been done.

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Greg - probably not any/many deliberately assembled this way, the pencil barrel and triangle handguards would be used on a retro SP-1/M-16 build for a period look.

Not saying you're wrong to build that way, but you may get a finished project looking closer to a Caddy with 22 inch rims...just sayin.

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Originally Posted by AH64guy
Greg - probably not any/many deliberately assembled this way, the pencil barrel and triangle handguards would be used on a retro SP-1/M-16 build for a period look.

Not saying you're wrong to build that way, but you may get a finished project looking closer to a Caddy with 22 inch rims...just sayin.


That's what I was sort of afraid of.

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What does looks have to do with it? Are you just going for a certain look just for fun?

If function is your concern, don't worry about looks.

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Build it and if it doesn't look right then rebarrel with a heavier barrel and sell the pencil barrel.


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I made a mock up of one on the AR15.com virtual builder. They didn't have the triangle handguards, but I thought it looked great with an A2 handguard and stock. I bought the CMT billet upper and lower.

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Thanks for your insight on this guys. I took your advice and went another direction with it. I think I'm happier with this than what I was contemplating. It seems like it's going to shoot good!

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looks nice!


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Please tell us about the barrel you selected??


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Please tell us about the barrel you selected??


It's a 20" Yankee Hill fluted midweight 9-1 twist chrome lined barrel.

I've only fired it once since mounting the scope, and with heavy and variable winds, I was getting consistent 1" 100 yard groups with handloaded cheap bulk 55 grain FMJ bullets.



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I wonder what will happen when you hand load some REAL bullets...like some smk's???


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I'm a big fan of 20" guns. I like it.



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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
I wonder what will happen when you hand load some REAL bullets...like some smk's???


Right now I have a box of Sierrra 55 grain BTSP's, and a box of 60 grain Sierra HP's, in addition to a bunch of the Hornady FMJ's, and 55 gr SP's.

I'm going to try and tune a load to the rifle. Do you think either of the Sierra bullets would be worth trying, or should I start with Match bullets?

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It's windy here, but here's a 5 shot group with 60 grain Sierra HPs, and 25 grains of WW748. 100 yards, it measures .750" center to center. I'm happy with it so far.
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Nice group. I really like your rifle. It looks well thought out.

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